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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 01:00 AM) I think they could honestly just trade Quintana and get better. Short term (rest of the season) it'd hurt the rotation but next season would be more beneficial. That's if you could get a haul from Boston. Personally, I'd love to see the, blow it up and watch a bunch of young top prospects grow. It's fun watching Tim come up and grow and do well. Imagine if we had Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, etc. from trading those guys. I'd be excited to watch them develop and they're close enough to the bigs that it's not like your trading for a bunch of low A prospects. If you are trading Q, which i have no problem with , I would want at least 1 MLB player along w the type of prospects you name. If Boston, I want Betts since I now think Bradley is untpouchable. If they could get Betts and Moncada I would do it.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Just confirms my thoughts that he should not be used outside of save situations. Every time Robin throws him in there in those situations, he seems to give up runs. But some pitchers need periodic work. Maybe Robertson is one of them. If a week goes by w/o a save opportunity, it may be out of necessity he ends up getting used.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 04:32 PM) Sox need two bats and two good relievers. I assume you also mean good bats. That would cost us Q or Rodon and Fulmer.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) There's no argument the Sox were far more successful in one of their three playoff appearances since the inception of the current division structure than the Indians and Twins were in their 14 combined appearances during that same time frame. But that wasn't the point I was making. The more overarching observation was that the small market teams in the division have won the division five times as often as the large market Chicago White Sox have. That's kind of embarrassing. And the "current management team that is in place" that you reference has only built teams that have won the division in just two of their 15 years now being at this thing. Not exactly an eye popping record of achievement. Actually I would agree with the assessment that the White Sox are more accurately a mid-market team and the Cubs the large market team in Chicago. bleacherreport.com/articles/961412-mlb...30-mlb-teams-by-market-size

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) I would settle for anyone who could throw some strikes. Everyone of these borderline guys mentioned above have the same problem...throwing strikes. Ynoa, Purke, Kahnle and Beck have all failed miserably getting ahead of hitters at the major league level. I was listening to Dennis Eckersley talking the other night about relievers. He said many non-closers nibble and rarely throw strikes on a consistent basis. He said the reason is most of the bullpen guys other than closers have a limited pitch selection. They are there because they may have 1 good pitch and the rest are very hittable. So the coaches have them trying to throw around the edges because when they hit the strike zone, they tend to get hit hard.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 07:53 PM) No team that's out of the race is going to give up a cheap young bat with upside. That's what these rebuilding teams are currently stockpiling. Didn't we give up one of those a few years ago in Semien? You missed my point. For example, Boston desperately needs starting pitching . Dombrowski is not known for patience. I would trade a Q, Rodon or Fulmer if it would return a Betts or even better a Bradley. It may have to be after the season. But the Sox have only a few trade chips. I would not use Fulmer now to get a 30 year old bat hoping to make the playoffs. Rather I would want to acquire a young bat from a team w hitters desperate for a pitcher. It may be now or after the season.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 05:17 PM) No reason for the Sox to be in sell mode. If they win tomorrow that's 6 series wins in a row with Morneau on the horizon and I am sure Hahn will be knocking down doors to get a relief pitcher or 2 and possibly another bat. Wouldn't be surprised though if nothing happened right up until the deadline to see how Morneau does while Hahn tries to nickel and dime other GM's. Rather than buy or sell mode, I hope Hahn is improve the roster mode. Rather than go for the 30 yr old established veteran bat, I would rather go for the 22-24 yr old semi established bat. Even if it diminishes the chances this year but improves the age and strength of the roster for next year. Trade for an Anderson type rather than a Frazier. If we have to trade a Fulmer, get a young bat in exchange.

I think they have to add a 4/5 SP. Gonzalez has been up and down and I think an injury to a SP is inevitable. If someone hits the DL for a few weeks, I don' think there is a viable short-term replacement at Charlotte. Maybe the age of our top 3 is a plus but so many pitchers are going down lately that I think we need a back-up or make Gonzo the 6th man. I think there are enough bullpen options so I would go for a SP first.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 4, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) Next two weeks: Bos 44-37 -- 3 vs Tex, 3 vs TB, 3 at NY Det 44-38 -- 3 at Cle, 4 at Tor, 3 vs KC Tor 45-39 -- 3 vs KC, 4 vs Det, 3 at Oak KC 43-38 -- 3 at Tor, 4 vs Sea, 3 at Det Hou 43-39 -- 3 vs Sea, 4 vs Oak, 3 at Sea Sea 43-39 -- 3 at Hou, 4 at KC, 3 vs Hou Sox 42-40 -- 3 vs NY, 3 vs Atl, 3 at LAA A lot of head-to-head where teams can go 5-5, while the Sox can go 7-2. Could look good in a couple weeks if the Sox handle their business. Right now, we need to pass KC which should happen by next weekend and then Tigers. First goal is 2nd place in Central. Get to 6 or 7 games over .500 by All Star break. Then add a LH bat and a 4/5 SP.

One step at a time. We pass the woeful road Royals this week.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 01:24 AM) I was about to guess the replay group in NYC had already gone home but that couldn't possibly be the case, as the Yankees are all still playing in SD. Watched the replay. Clear that ball wasn't out of the field of play. Hard as hell for a home team to evict fans for that one, because it was the second bounced and everyone probably assumed it was out of play already from the original bounce before it caromed in that direction at a totally different angle. Obviously, with Trout running....he scores easily. I can't imagine if David Ortiz hit that ball against the Yankees (trailing by 1 late) and it was, let's say, Bogaerts or Bradley, Jr., running that they would have been sent back to 3rd base with their team down by a run still. Just no way that happens. Never in a million years. WRONG. That group in NYC are all Yankee or Met fans. New York teams always get the benefit of replay calls.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 1, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) I am happy with this alignment. Jesus, Matt Davidson though. I hope he comes back and hits .300 in AAA. Such a tough break for a guy who has shown by many accounts to be nothing but a great dude. If Leo Durocher was around today he would tell you great dudes finish last.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 1, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) A battle of two hopeful teams starts today in a pivotal series. Both are on the outside of a wild card spot and both seem to be on the rise after being in a rut. The Sox have begun to recover after a horrid stretch, winning their last three consecutive series. We sit 2.5 games away from a wild card spot. The Huston Astros on the other hand have gone 40 and 20 since May 1st. They currently sit a half a game from a wild card spot. In the White corner, likely hailing from somewhere south of the equator, we have Miguel "The Rat Dog" Gonzalez. Sporting an intimidating set of sideburns and facial scruff - this man on a mission has been brilliant and then f***ing awful in his last two starts. The offense supporting him looks to heat up as summer temperatures continue rising. Things are clicking and aside from an injury to recent call up Matt Davidson, every man 1 through 9 believes they can mash today. Spark plug Adam Eaton has recently revealed this game will be dedicated to the injured Davidson and in homage to him, every batter will either strike out or hit a home run. In the Ugly Ass Uniform corner, hailing from a brew house in Milwaukee is some poor asshole who's mainly know for hitting Stanton in the face. A team comprised of a perennial league leader in hitting, a left handed masher, a young power hitting egotistical prick, and the Alex Rodriguez of the current generation - these guys got everything necessary to bust-a-move. Will the White Sox turn their season south and smack the moon men with a 55 pound slab of raw brisket? Will The Rat Dog throw a gem or give up 16 hits? Will Tim Anderson fly into the air revealing himself as the real life Superman? Will it ever stop? Yo, I don't know - turn off the lights, and I glow. To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal... Blah blah blah... Something about a candle.... Blah blah blah... WICKED! hi8is take away - the white sox will win as this will be the third game they win and will signal their eventual record of 28 - 5 in their next 33 games. If this does not happen exactly as I foretold - then I will make a video of myself eating a 1,000 year old egg. Stop, hammer time. Or take spelling 101

hahn also announced that Greg will be sent down to the Charlotte Message board to work on his player analysis.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Exactly. Hopes of winning the division disappeared a long time ago. Good luck getting in wild card contention. The White Sox either should sell, sell sell in an attempt to rebuild or make moves based on next season. Sure if you can get a good reliever for nothing, go for it, but make moves in regards to the future not this season. That ship has sailed. Personally I'd trade Lawrie, Shields, Melky, Avi for starters. And also dump Robertson and maybe even Frazier. Sell time. Actually they already are since they are 2.5 games out. As many problems as the White Sox have, the AL is pretty weak this year. If the season ended today, KC and Boston would be the two wildcards. Two teams that have as many holes as we do. We just took 3 out of 4 in Boston and Farrell may get fired before Robin. KC is the 2nd worst road team in the AL. Only Minny is worse. Toronto---we just took 2 of 3 from them. Detroit? Another team w a manager on thin ice. I think the teams that make the best moves at the deadline will win the WC spots. But right now, there is no front runner.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) I'll be there tonight, Hoping for an offensive show behind another dominating Q start! Offensive show and Q start typically don't belong in the same sentence. Hope you are right.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 07:45 AM) They don't need to add two bats, as they are already committed to Morneau, to fill one spot. One more bat and a bullpen arm, would make more sense to me. I would put a 4/5 SP ahead of a bullpen arm. Who is next in line if Gonzo or Sheilds crashes or if one of the top 3 goes out w an injury? Unless you are comfortable w that choice, I think another starter who could do long relief and be ready just in case is a higher priority than a BP arm. Probably more expensive as well.

QUOTE (chisox802 @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) I agree with all of this. Cleveland is very hot, but they will cool off here eventually. It's going to come down to our head to head with the BIG 3 the later in the season. Hopefully this time we perform a little better...... I agree with all this. But the Sox are probably due for an injury to a major player or two like most teams. So they have to be able to compensate with a very limited bench. I think they desperately need to find another 4/5 SP. I don't even know who comes up if one of the 5 starters hits the DL. I guess Beck would be the 6th starter on the depth chart

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2016 -> 07:25 PM) The problem with the WC equation now is the Astros...they are on a 22-9 run right now, and have a plentiful minor league system to draw from to make more moves at the deadline. So that leaves Boston/Balt/Toronto/NYY...KC/DET/CHW...and then the Astros and Mariners fighting for two spots. It certainly doesn't feel like we have a 2/8 chance of making it right now, more like 1/2 that, maybe 12.5%. With Cleveland playing the Braves, the division lead is likely to widen even further this week. Theoretically, we should take 2/3 from the Twins, but then we've got the Astros. Royals and Cardinals play 2 and 2, home and away. I think the Sox catch the Royals next week to 10 days. They are almost as bad as the Twins playing on the road. 2nd place should be the goal for the break.

Another great job by the ACE of our staff. Nice time for Twins to come to town. We need the rest of the rotation to dominate the Twins while St L. wipes out the Royals. We need to get back to at least 2nd place by the break. Indians are disappearing over the horizon.

Actually great job by Robin today being creative with the lineup considering this awful bench and starting 2 of his catchers. Result was both hit home runs.

Let Albers DH and he is still available from the bullpen. Kinds like a twofa.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 03:53 PM) There are more teams looking to add in the offseason than at midseason though. It'd be a way bigger market in the offseason. Agree but that is why I said that only a few teams may have the pieces to interest the Sox for Sale. We have really only heard Dodgers, Red Sox and possibly the Yankees. But Boston and LA may not be in the market if they acquire pitching at the deadline next month. Normally offseason gives you more options but for Sale that could go either way. Q would probably be better in offseason. Rumors today indicate Red Sox are chasing other players.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) Neither guy should or will be moved the deadline. You can get more in the offseason Not always. At the trade deadline, the competition is other teams selling staring pitching as well. In the offseason the competition is almost every teamwilling to trade pitching as well as the free agents. Fo example, it seems like the market for Sale or Q will be limited because it is going to take a lot to get either one. If Boston decides they need another staring pitcher for the pennant chase this year, they might trade off assets that would take them out of the market for another trade in the off-season.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 04:55 PM) Just because they pitched for the same team doesn't mean they received the same run support. The offense is scoring almost 2 runs/game more for Sale than Quintana this year. Agree. But we are not talking this season, we are talking 5 seasons. It is pretty strange with such a large sampling that with two talented guys, one guy wins and the other struggles around .500.