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Mlbtraderumors just put out on article with their top 50 trade candidates.... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/06/top-50-trade-candidates-2019-mlb-trade-deadline.html Colome came in at 17 (although their order isn’t by talent/best players)with this to say: “Though he’s carrying a 2.30 ERA, Colome is unlikely to maintain a .113 BABIP-against. With anticipated regression mixed in, the 30-year-old looks like much the same pitcher he has always been. It’s nice that he has been doing a solid job in the closer’s role for the White Sox, but that’s not going to sway many GMs in this day and age. He’s eligible for arbitration in 2020 but is already earning a hefty $7,325,000 salary. With the White Sox hoping to stay in the race this year and increase their competitiveness next season, there are some scenarios where Colome ends up staying in Chicago.”

Good for you..I’m not telling you how you should/shouldn’t think. Of course I think you’re thinking with your fan heart instead of your head, but we’ll agree to disagree

Hate to break it you, but I don’t give a damn about your personal interests. There’s a bigger picture than a 2nd tier closer on an at best .500 team. And if you can’t understand that Alex Colome is 2nd tier you are either a giant homer or just don’t understand what you are discussing.

Lol “crap he brought valid points, let’s move on to another argument” To answer your question: I honestly don’t really care who the closer the rest of this year would be. If I’m Rick Hahn I’m not making decisions that impact the future of the team because I have delusions of chasing the 2nd wild card. If someone is willing to give you something of value for Colome you should take it. 2nd tiers closers are a dime a dozen as far as I’m concerned. With that said, I won’t be the least bit surprised if Colome stays a White Sox. 1. Because I have 0 faith in our front office. 2. Because, as others have already said, I don’t think a single other team out there is trading for Alex Colome thinking they just fixed their bullpen. I don’t see real value coming back. As for next year, the possibilities are endless. Closers pop up all the time (ie:2005). Hell, look at our own division. If going into 2017 I told you that Shane Green and Brad Hand were going to be legit closers you would have called me crazy.

Exception does not equal the rule...you’re casually mentioning the greatest of all time and Alex Colome in the same sentence. That should ring off a “one of these things is not like the other” alarm in your head. And for Colome it goes beyond FIP...his BABIP is .117 compared to a career .279. His gb% has dropped and his flyball and hr rate has increased (big red flag as the weather heats up in Chicago). And overall batters are barreling up the ball and making hard contact at an alarming rate. All of those factors are the problem, not just 1. Not saying Colome is trash and we should get rid of him for nothing, but to act like he’s an important piece for the future that isnt pretty easy to replace is an equally delusional take

I’d trade Colome no problem...he’s just not a dominant “must keep” type of reliever. I’d trade him very soon before the regression that definitely due comes. I know he’s been solid throughout most of his career, but there is very little to feel confident about in his advanced stats.

With the Mariners seemingly trading any/everyone I wonder if they would trade Marco Gonzales? He’s dirt cheap so they have no real reason to trade him, but he’s 27 and pretty far from an ace. Possibly they’d prefer to gamble on a high upside prospect. Gonzales is a lefty would could comfortably slot into the #4 starter for a few years to come

Well at least the Sox are consistent...I haven’t liked a single 1st round pick since Rodon. Might as well keep it going (not that my opinion really means anything)

His Versatility is nice, but he’s never going to hit enough to be a regular on a championship caliber team (unless we have 7 other great starters) and his D is solid but not anything special. If you can keep him around for cheap as a backup he’s a nice guy to have on the roster, but I wouldn’t pay him much and I can’t see a team giving up anything of value for him

“This is still very much a rebuild” is the exact reason you stop wasting playing time on garbage vets that won’t be on the team next year....very possibly not in the majors.

Kinda surprised to see Frare make the roster. Obviously put up some impressive #’s in the minors, but 3 lefties in the pen? Guessing 1 of Frare or Banuelos gets the boot once we need a 5th starter?

I completely forgot about that in general...but flavum is correct, that doesn’t take affect until 2020

Could be that Banuelos is strictly a Loogy and Covey is the long man. Frare was the only other LH option, I’m good with Banuelos. And with our staff there will likely be a good amount of duds where we need someone to eat 3 or 4 innings...that’s where Covey comes in. Who else would you like to waste in that role?

Barring some unforeseen miracle the Sox aren’t competing in ‘19 or ‘20...so you want to give up a pick and pay Kuechle to be the 3rd/4th starter for a potential playoff run in 2021? Yeah no thanks. With Keuchel’s current tragectory he may not even be a 3rd starter by then. Teams with a window to win a WS in the next year or 2 should be looking at Keuchel...we aren’t in that category

Impossible was a poor choice of words...I’m not a doctor nor have I torn mine so not pretending to know the recovery process of an Achilles. But I think the point still stands that he wasn’t able to do the things he normally can to build/maintain muscle in his calves and quads. The excercises listed in that article are simple things to regain full mobility in the foot/ankle....that alone is a 6 month process. Building the strength in your legs back to/beyond normal strength doesn’t happen until after that. His 2nd surgery was only like 10 months ago. Not to mention in that 1 very out of context picture he’s wearing baggy clothes... It’s still premature to worry about his physique. I’d much rather him be slightly overweight than injured. Take it as slow as he needs to keep that Achilles in tact, getting in shape after is the easy part.

You do realize its nearly impossible to work out your legs with a torn Achilles right? Not to mention he tore it twice...of course there’s going to be atrophy in his lower 1/2.

I think it’s pretty obvious it doesn’t matter what he wants at this point, he’s not getting 4 years. Not arguing the part about not signing him at all tho. I’m not even sure what our “window” is at this point, but it’s very possible Keuchel doesn’t even fit into it

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/03/offseason-in-review-chicago-white-sox-11.html Nothing new here but thought he pretty much hit the nail on the head with how most feel

Cease dunning madrigal eloy kopech robert collins hansen Ruthetford Basabe/Micker/González (pick your favorite) Obviously no order to that...but feel good about 5 of them being at least above average players for the White Sox in 2021? Make a good enough core to make the Sox at least perennially in the playoffs?

This is the type of rebuild that will make “The Process” by the Sixers seem like a quick jog around the block....we’re taking the long long way around and crossing our fingers that at least 4 or 5 of the prospects hit their potential as impact players.

1. It’s an old saying for a reason...you spend $ to make $. It wouldn’t make sense for anyone to make a huge investment into the Sox and continue on the same path of losing and embarrassing attendance #’s. 2. We already know the current ownership won’t make big signings. We don’t know what the next ownership group would do. Sounds like a pretty common sense reason to want change if you ask me 3. And finally... If you think the Sox are going to develop enough talent internally to be serious WS contenders then I have ocean front property in Oklahoma you’d be very interested in....

Picked trade for Joc, but not limited to just Joc...there are some other interesting names that could be had, Nick Williams if the Phils sign Harper comes to mind. But expecting our FO to do something creative is probably just misguided thinking. They will likely sign an old guy that won’t work out.

I’m all for not signing any vets and sucking/tanking...but someone needs to eat innings. Our pitching staff sucks now and that’s not factoring injuries or further sucking Rondon Lopez Gio Nova ?? Covey and Stephens. Am I missing someone? Because expecting 900+ innings out of those 5/6 is a pipe dream at best.

Meh he’s not actually a good hitter and his position flexibility doesn’t involve any premium positions. Don’t see why we would have any interest in him...

Pretty weird to me that people are worried about winning 70 games instead of 65...no need to even look at these mediocre vets, they aren’t helping anything. I say lose as many games as humanly possible, setting the record for losses would be my goal. Embarrass the FO and hope for change...+ having the #1 overall pick seems like the only way we’ll ever have a shot at getting a true impact bat