Bob Sacamano

Harold loves him = kiss of death

How are we picking on the topic starter? Anyone who who read what ss2k5 posted and saw it as such is incredibly soft and thin skinned. I really didn’t see it as that. My comment was directed to someone else kinda talking about the negativity posted on the board. @southsider2k5

Weren’t they 26-year old free agents at the time?

You’re right. This organization has a ton of success and deserves absolutely zero criticism.

Agree about those deals looking like steals. Only way would be if you could defer a lot of it so the AAV on the luxury tax is lower like the dodgers did with Ohtani.

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Same lol

On the surface it seems like it, but when I looked at their numbers its closer than I thought. Cubs would definitely still need to give something else up though.

Exactly. A team would be dumb to pay a premium for a small window of time when you can just trade for him and then buy out his 2 arb years or give a big extension. Also, Crochet might agree to a deal that buys out those 2 arb years, but he ain't giving up a year of free agency when he's set to be a FA at like 27. He would sign a bigger deal than that. Glasnow example: how much more did the Rays really get in that deal for the Dodgers opportunity to pay him $150M over 5 years? Really don't think it's that much of a difference. It's not adding that much value to it. I think some people are reading way too into Crochet's extension comments around the trade deadline where he was trying to leverage himself pitching in the playoffs in a year he was way past what people thought he would pitch innings wise for guaranteed money.

Don't think I've ever heard of an extension window to negotiate with another team for multiple years of arbitration. It may sound like a good idea but zero chance it happens.

It sucks to hear but I get it. The season is over when it starts. You got 6 months of that bs. It sucks.

Me too lol only thing is Luis Castillo is signed for 3 years + vesting option and Bellinger is signed for another year plus has a player option for the following year. I feel like the Mariners would need something else.

Buy-low of Brett Baty for 3B? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/mets-trade-rumors-brett-baty-starting-pitching.html

You're onto something here.

Still not scoring runs

No s%*#. Any of us could have told you that.

That too. Leverage.

No one does really. Outside of a handful of times when a star with a year left on the deal got a window, it doesn't really happen. And agreed about unnecessary risk. A team could trade for him now and extend him next offseason if they want.

It doesn’t happen. They would get an exclusive 2 years to negotiate an extension. Why would a team give up more if they don’t have to?

Plus, that never happens when the player has multiple years of control when traded.

I know that. What doesn’t make sense is the fan proposals of them giving up their big prospects to the Sox like they’re the ones trading for Crochet when they’re only getting Hoerner. Thats what doesn’t make sense.

It doesn’t really make sense for Seattle (unless more was going there)

Bellinger Hoerner package to M’s?

How good of a prospect would the M’s be giving up if they’re getting back Hoerner?

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