Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 07:09 AM) If you want to get technical, they've only had 5 playoff appearances in the last 56 seasons. Wow...and when I started getting into baseball hardcore the year was like 2000/2001 (I was born in 91). So I've seen them in the playoffs three times in 15 years which I thought was/is bad. 5 in 56 is just embarassing. It helps that we snuck in that World Series win in 05 though.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) Mark Buehrle and Adam Dunn point and laugh at Trevor Bauer Mark Buehrle is somewhere crushing a 6-pack right now. And yes, I'm fully aware it's before 7 am right now.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 09:19 PM) how is it going, long time no see. Would you say that he's been on a -wait for it....hiatus

I still think we end up signing Freese or trading for Lawrie. Maybe even as soon as next week during the meetings.

Also don't forget: last time Oakland traded their starting 3B, the guy won MVP the following season

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) He certainly wouldn't play the outfield. Play him at third. If and when that doesn't work, move to DH. The guy played shortstop through all of 2014. 3rd base is shortstop for guys who shouldn't play shortstop anymore. Yeah...I'll take it a step further and say he was the starting shortstop for a team that won the division so he didn't hurt them too much. Play him at third until that fails.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) I think that should be a pretty telling sign that the real problem with this organization and developing talent in the past starts with actually picking the talent and not developing it. Not that the developing part has gone swimmingly either, but it gets a lot harder to develop talent when the talent is flawed from the beginning. Yeah...the hitting side hasn't been too pretty but they've been good with arms lately. So they probably keep going that route. As of right now, I believe we have pick 10, 33 and 54 as our first 3 picks.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 06:09 PM) Even the Swisher trade, Gio turned out well,but the others were nothing, and Gio had plenty of detractors on this board. Honestly, most of the trades the Sox have made where they dealt away prospects, they haven't really turned into anything (besides Gio). Other ones that have made an impact in the MLB that come to mind are Chris Young (the OF one) and Chris Carter. Even in the Peavy deal when we traded like 4 prospects away, the best guy is a fringe long reliever at this point.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 06:02 PM) Green sox hero worships prospects. His ideal team would be 25 guys making minimum, moved ou the next year because they would be due a raise. He still says trading for Freddy Garcia was stupid, even though it worked out in the form of a championship, and he ignores the Sox traded him for Gio and Floyd. lol none of the guys we dealt away in that trade really amounted to much (Morse broke out in his upper-20s with a different team so he likely would have been dfa'd or released or whatever with us at some point as well).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) Sox made the playoffs when they traded for Swisher. Wow. That's actually true.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) I've been staunchly against the idea of trading for Hanley but if Boston is willing to eat half of his salary, half of the 2019 vesting option and take LaRoche, I think my mind could be changed. In total, the Sox would be on the hook for about 45M through the '19 season. I think Hanley's bat is worth 11M per year. Would Hanley be the primary DH in this situation? I could live with that as long as we don't have to see him play the outfield.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 07:49 PM) The problem with a Lawrie/Saladino/Sanchez/Abreu infield is that there is very little power there besides Abreu. I don't see Sanchez and Saladino hitting over 10 homers each and Lawrie isn't known for his power either. I guess I'd be ok with that group if they all hit for high averages and played sparkling defense, but I don't see that as being realistic. Lawrie hit 16 playing most of his team's home games in the coliseum. If he came here I think he could reach 20.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) They certainly dont need that 3.4 offensive WAR. Basically. I'm cool with either. I think Frazier can plug into the 4-hole while I'm not sure where they'd start Lawrie at.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) Honestly that's not a bad deal for a guy like Zimmerman. It's just Detroit has too much junk on their payroll that really dampens this signing. I agree with this. He had a down year last season but up until that point he was a front of the line starter.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Right or wrong, I still see us making a serious run at Cespedes. Our team desperately needs to add a power hitter to our lineup and he's perhaps the only option available that won't cost us a draft pick or prospects. Plus in a corner spot, he's a significant upgrade over Avi & Melky defensively. Agree. Having him hit behind Abreu would be a nice addition. I know people get on him for OBP, but if the guy is hitting 4th, swing the bat and drive in runs. Not saying OBP doesn't matter, but I think it matters more or less depending on the spot in the order.

Only 15 free agents left with QOs. Hope they all sign on different teams without protected protected first round picks (or the Padres with 2 comp picks before us).

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 06:11 AM) They meaning the Sox or Tribe? The Tribe can afford 20M annually with less holes to fill than the Sox which is why I think the Tribe signs Upton. I really wouldn't mind if he signed with the Indians. Upton seems like the kind of guy who will never live up to a big contract due to his injury history, k-rate and defense. With our luck, he'll be Adam Dunn 3.0. Out of the big 3 outfield targets, he's the one I want the least.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 10:33 PM) Well that's a little unexpected I'm not really surprised. I expect them to sign 2 guys not in the top tier (guys like Zimmermann, Samardzija, Iwakuma, Leake, Cueto, etc.). Some combination of them.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 05:23 PM) Nothing, I was just curious because I thought I remembered him having a son. Don't have to have a wife to have a son.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) They really do need an ace and they could have gone after Jordan Zimmermann who should be cheaper than Price. Then again, I don't know much about the Jays finances either. I'm quite surprised they didn't go after Samardzija. Maybe Samardzija's asking price is too much? There's nothing impressive about that rotation when looking beyond Estrada and Stroman. The Jays offense will need to continue mashing to win games. I've always read that the ownership up there has a ton of money but seem unwilling to spend the big bucks.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) I was thinking the exact same thing. If they blew $36 million on Happ, why didn't they try to save the money and then go after Price? Yes, I realize that $36 and $200+ million are very different contracts, but the Jays already have enough #4-#5 starter types. They need an ace. I hear that Marcus Stroman kid is pretty good.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) He might be a lefty, but he still has back end of the rotation potential. If anything, maybe he could be a valuable man out of the pen. Dietrich could very well play 2B instead of Sanchez. Dietrich is a poor man's Ben Zobrist, imo. He did hit pretty well last year, so it's not like he would be strictly on the bench Howie Kendrick has a draft pick attached to him, he's out of the question. You don't even have Sanchez listed at 2B. You have Cabrera there.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) Sign 2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera 2 years/20 million Trade SP Chris Beck and SP Brandon Brennan to the A's for 3B Brett Lawrie Trade 1B Adam LaRoche (Balances the money), SP Frankie Montas, SP Myles Jaye, and OF Adam Engel to the Rockies for OF Carlos Gonzalez and 1B Corelle Prime Trade RF Avisail Garcia to the Phillies for SP Jesse Biddle Trade RP Zach Putnam and SP Thad Lowry for UTIL Derek Dietrich CF Adam Eaton (L) 2B Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) 3B Brett Lawrie DH Melky Cabrera (S) RF Trayce Thompson C Alex Avila (L) SS Tyler Saladino OF J.B Shuck, C Tyler Flowers, 1B/3B Mike Olt, UTIL Derek Dietrich SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? I wouldn't trade Putnam for a guy who's just going to be on the bench. He has a pretty solid arm and trading him for a bench guy I feel would be selling low. Especially when teams put a lot of stock on good bullpens now,

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) Even when he was really bad last year he still put up a .666 OPS against righties. The bulk average for catchers in the AL was .676. Even if he's not healthy that can still be an upgrade over Flowers out there against righties. Exactly. Hard to hate on this signing. They will be an adequate platoon and for about $6.5 mill.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 04:10 AM) So who do you suggest the Sox should have picked up that's actually available? It's not like the league is full of catchers that can hit and play defense. Agree. And honestly if this guy's healthy, I think it's a great signing at $2.5 million.