Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) Obviously the higher the pick the better your odds, but it all comes down to scouting and luck. Many times your second or third choice turns out better than your first. That piece a couple of weeks ago about the best player chosen in a particular spot was pretty eye popping. The draft is about 50 years old. Chad Billingsley being the best #24 pick of all time. Doesn't really make the 24th pick seem so valuable. You also give yourself more money to spend in said draft. And it's all about putting yourself in a position to draft the best player that you want. That guy might go top 5 and you want to be there to get him. But like you said, it comes down to scouts.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 07:54 PM) All I can say is I agree. The draft is a ridiculous crapshoot. The best way to win is sign guys like Abreu and (hopefully) Robert. I'm in favor of that cause I could give a s*** about how much money Jerry spends since the chairman and his peeps do not care about us spending 9 bucks for a hot dog and whatever it costs to park at a game. Add to signing guys like Robert SMART drafting when your pick comes up as well as FREE AGENCY, you know, signing guys who have already done it and proven they can do it. You can't change people's minds. Draft-niks won't admit it, but they are part of the sports cliche -- you know, the one that always is more interested in future names than current ones. I won't change my opinion; they won't change theirs. So be it. But there are so many busts out there who are deemed "prospects." We better never see you complain about a free agent signing beyond this point. EDIT: I'm sure we can look back at recent signings and trades of prospects and find that you've complained.

It's impossible to grade a rebuild as of right now. So with the talent they've brought in during year 1 of the rebuild, I give it a 10. Bringing in Moncada, Kopech, Robert, Lopez, Giolito, Dunning, Basabe, the 2017 draft picks are great additions to go along with Rodon (who really knows how long for him), Hansen, Collins, and Anderson.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 11:55 PM) Bless those who go pay to watch this horrific baseball franchise. Thank God for 2005. *Quoting him from the game thread yesterday* Yeah, it was so much better watching them "go for it" only to still watch horrific baseball. We've all been saying this for about 5 years, hence the new direction.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 09:18 AM) forrestgump775 strikes again /thread

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) Just know this...you will soon be at an age where your friends are all getting married and knocking up their wives and raising families...you will hardly ever see them anymore anyways...and you'll end up talking to strangers on sports forums more than your own childhood friends....oh wait...that's me. QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 08:45 PM) I resemble this. I'm 26 and I'm getting to this point in my life. All my friends in relationships are hardly around anymore. Had some weddings for some friends within 2-4 years older than me last year, which I refer to as "the first wave." My other friends about the same age as me are starting to get engaged so there will be a decent amount of weddings between the next year-4 years I think.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) I'll only add that Alexei was criminally underrated by Sox fans. We'll be extremely lucky if Anderson is as good. Agreed 100%. If Anderson becomes Alexei, that isn't a bad player.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) I don't blame the Nationals, but they are playing with fire. They cannot expect to catch lightning in a bottle and for a struggling K-Rod to be able to lead a world series caliber bullpen. A trade is beyond necessary, and I'd be shocked if they did not make a move by the deadline for impact relief help Not really a matter of "if" but when. They'll make some serious additions in the next month.

Good weekend for the reverse standings. Too bad they didn't lose 1 more against the Padres when we played them.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 09:35 AM) I gave it a 6. Last summer's trades: 8.5 Robert Signing: 9.5 2017 Draft: 7 2017 MLB performance of trade assets: 1.5 Accumulates into a solid 6. Frazier, Jones, Putnam, Petricka, Jennings, Gonzalez all being bad or hurt has really put a damper on what could have been really good to solid trade pieces. And that sucks. All we really have to trade is a fairly paid Robertson who may return 1 decent piece, and then we have two 2 diamond in the rough types in Avi and Kahnle - and who knows how much we'll actually be able to get for those 2. Its a damn shame, and why I wan't on the "tank" bandwagon until after the deadline. Avi, Kahnle, and to a lesser extent Abreu, have really been the only bright spots of 2017. I said all off-season the guy was gonna turn into a pumpkin.

Year 1 of rebuild and they've already added a lot of talent. I give it a 10 so far. Of course, we'll see how it pans out in a few years. If you compare it to the Cubs rebuild, going into year 1 of the season, they only had who, Baez and Rizzo (traded for in off-season before year 1; similar to Moncada) in the system at that point? Everyone else came the followings seasons.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:51 PM) Tigers lose 1-0 in San Diego. Ausmus got tossed. Something's gotta give. Want them to get hot for the next month.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) The fans were cheering like crazy in the ninth wanting to WIN tonight's game. I watched it. I disagree they attended the game tonight as a sign of support for an alleged rebuild. Come on. Gets me every time.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:20 PM) My gosh, all the excuses for some players and not others. Not trying to pick on you, but Rodon just didn't care that much probably tonight so he had the bad outing. Geez. p.s. That was a horrible game against a bad team. Sox come home on a warm June evening and get shut out? That sucks. Had the good hitters up in the ninth but they couldn't come through this time. Tough break on the pop up. Woulda been nice to have a pinch runner in there. He might have made it to second. I still don't know how fans pay for this bad baseball. Sox are lucky 25,000 fans came to see that crap. Simple: fans wanted a rebuild, the team listened and started rebuilding, fams showing a sign of appreciation and support. Also was a nice night to do something.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 06:47 PM) For the Nats, it's not about pressure to compete, it's about trying to keep your roster from killing one another. I'm not sure how many times this point needs to be made. Christ, I knoooow. I get that. I do. I'm saying the front office hasn't gotten to that point of understanding they need to do something soon due to the fact they have a comfortable lead.

QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 05:41 PM) 31... I think I had it a little better cuz I can include the earlier 90's Yeah more of Thomas's career.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) I don't understand why you keep saying "stat lovers." How do you tell how good a baseball player is? By how well they wear their uniform? lol is he trying to insult people by calling them that?

Red Sox sign Jhonny Peralta....saw that one coming from a mile away. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/red-...ny-peralta.html

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Robertson and Q are the only White Sox that are rumored to be trade bait who have value. People that have mentioned Melky and Frazier and the like really surprise me, cause they, especially the stat lovers, should know better. No one here has ever said Melky and Frazier will bring back a lot. Not sure where you're reading that says otherwise.

Mets and Marlins ready to sell. Exactly why the Nats front office has yet to feel the pressure of needing to add bullpen help. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/marl...echavarria.html https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/mets...m-veterans.html

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) I'm 25 and I gotta agree with you there, we've been lucky to have some greats in front of us pretty much the whole time we've been able to comprehend baseball We mostly had entertaining seasons growing up if you think about. The 2000s they were competitive just about every year.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) Don't know if any Sox fan will be able to read that without a smile on their face I will definitely shed some tears tomorrow. I did at PK's final game and the number retiring. Definitely grew up at a prime time to be a fan (I'm 26 and started I guess becoming a fan late 90s).

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 08:21 AM) Just a prediction, but I think this is how it lays out Quintana starts before 7/31: 6-27 vs Yankees 7-2 vs Rangers 7-8 at Rockies 7-18 vs Dodgers 7-24 at Cubs 7-29 vs Indians I think they'll stay away from 7-31 being his start date for obvious reasons, and 7-30 is Hall of Fame day, where I think MLB will tell teams not to take away from that. The Sox have a day game while the speeches are going on. He'll take the ball sooner than the 18th. They're not going to give him 9 days off. Teams always shuffle their rotation at the All Star break. He'll most likely take the ball in that Seattle series (probably that Saturday the 15th). If so, it would line up like this post All-Star break: 7-15 vs Mariners 7-22 at Royals 7-27 vs Cubs His next start would actually be scheduled for 31st if he takes the ball on the 15th against the Mariners (assuming no rainouts or spot starts).

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) He right now is making errors at a record setting rate at SS. His OBP projects to be a disaster during his career. However he has power. Is my projection of .260 (.290 OBP) 17-20 HRs, 70-75 RBIs off base too? I asked if he has any experience at catcher. I think he'd be great there. Many of you are talking outfield. Why isn't that trolling??? It's obvious RIGHT NOW he's a SS for better or worse so why isn't outfield talk trolling? You guys need professional help. Trolling? What an insult. Seriously. I'm a fricking fan against the rebuild, so shoot me. Spell check police are annoying. Switching a guy to OF =/= switching a guy to catcher.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) I would not consider extending him for more than the average MLB salary and I would love it if the Sox traded him next month. Agreed.