Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Who would you choose between Happ and Jimenez...assuming they don't want Schwarber or the Cubs won't discount him? Baez would fit nicely if they had to move Anderson off SS, but that's a long ways from happening still. He'd be 3b for the White Sox. Schwarber has what, 4 years of control after this season? Not really a fan of that. I would want both Happ and Jimenez but that would likely mean one other prospect comes along with them instead of a deal centering around Happ OR Jimenez plus 3 or 4 guys.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 23, 2017 -> 11:42 PM) I was listening to Royals game and they were saying how some pitcher, I forget which one, wouldn't be elected to the Hall cause he didn't have near enough wins. WAIT a minute! I thought in the new sabes era wins mean NOTHING. So sabes people. No more starting pitchers get in the Hall again? Unless they have some ridiculous amount of strikeouts? Or the Hall will only be for relievers with the good new-wave Sabes stats? People can't have it both ways. Do wins mean nothing or not? Are voters still going to look at wins for Hall of Fame selection? A lot of starters have been denied the Hall cause of the old stats WINS vs LOSSES. Should all pitchers who got excluded for not being near 300 wins be re-assessed in the era of Sabes? I mean, think about all the pitchers who are in the Hall because of wins and I've been told by the Sabes people wins mean NOTHING. Hmmm. This is nothing compared what Hawk said about Fernando Rodney lol

Beer run

You guys realize hes only starting because Rodon and Shields are both out, right? With a string of good Lopez starts, he may be up soon.

I've earned a ton of respect for Anibal Sanchez.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 23, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) Luzardo could be an interesting guy coming off TJS, agreed. I would want to see a better piece than Ward coming back as well. Ward is by no means bad, but questions remain about his ability to stick defensively at third base and he is a well below average runner. His hitting has been solid at AA ball so far this season, but if he cannot stick at third defensively then his bat and power really need to play up for him to have value. Hell, with Robertson's value rising, it might take 3 maybe 4 pieces to move him meaning Ward can still fit as a third or fourth piece. Granted, there also may be other good relievers available.

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 23, 2017 -> 07:21 AM) Good god dude you are one arrogant dude. What does any of that have to do with being a straight white male? The only thing your privilege has allowed you to do is become a full time social justic warrior and part time terrible film maker. The fact you've confused genetically predisposed physical traits like good looks, athletic abilities, & singing voice with privilege shows just how out of touch from reality you are. I literally thought the same. He can be a "good looking straight black male who does very well with the ladies, was always good at sports, was the best singer/actor/performer in my high school and college, excelled at most things I did, eagle scout, etc etc etc." Good looking straight black males who do very well with ladies and are good at sports or a good singer actor or performer exist lol

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 23, 2017 -> 08:34 AM) I think Jose Abreu is a guy who has more value to us than he has to the rest of the league. First base production is actually way up this year league-wide (so far), and even a team with a big hole there will only pay so much for what is essentially average-ish production from the position. For us though, he's a really mature and likeable guy for the fans, he's a calming and popular leadership presence in the clubhouse, he's a role model and familiar face to our top Cuban prospects, and he's paid fairly. Certainly, if someone wants to overpay, we'd have to consider, but I'd plan on keeping him around for the duration, honestly. Avi, on the other hand -- if he keeps this up into trade season and someone is willing to pay for THIS YEAR'S production, we should ABSOLUTELY try to cash in. But I think that any acquiring team is going to look at the same numbers we are and will price the risk of regression into their offers. Ultimately, it'll probably make more sense to keep him around given what I'd expect the offers to be. Keep him for the younger Latino players and possibly extend him in a year or 2 or if you're blown away with an offer, trade him and then attempt to re-sign him to DH when he is a free agent.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 23, 2017 -> 06:37 AM) The Sox should be looking to cash in on Avi. Find someone who needs a bat this summer and turn him into 3 assets. They should also be cashing in on Jose Abreu given he's so much older than the new core. Agreed 100%. I would deal Abreu if blown away with an offer.

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 22, 2017 -> 09:15 PM) The Rays are two games from a wild card spot. I can't tell if you're a closet Cubs fan or just super pessimistic. They may not be in 2 months though.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2017 -> 03:20 PM) Why? Avi isn't making any money. He, Eaton and Melkster woulda been the outfield. Weren't you the one arguing about a month back saying all they needed was a catcher, a DH and another OF? That would replace Avi.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 21, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) If Sale and Eaton stayed and the Sox stayed in go-for-it mode, Avisail would probably be in a different uniform right now. This^ he woulda been replaced by anyone.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2017 -> 03:07 PM) Yes but you sighed at the Trout comparison. It's easy to see the value in other team's players but as I said Sale is the pitching version of Trout. A true phenom. But in the same scenario would we have traded Trout? The answer is "yes" if you are going by the same philosophy of rebuild that the Sox are apparently embracing. You know guys like me wanted to keep Sale and buy free agents and make the usual tinkering trades to fill holes. We'd have had Sale and Q starting in a year Avi is breaking loose to go with stars in Abreu and Anderson (I didn't mean Frazier for gosh sakes) and a bullpen that until recently seemed decent. Could we have won a s***ty Central Division? Hmmm..... Some of us wanted to try things with a manager who had a clue, somebody besides Robin (great player; bad manager). Been there, done that unsuccessfully too many times.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Why the sigh? I see it as the same scenario. Trading Chris Sale was the right thing for this team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) Then I guess most would have wanted to trade Trout in that scenario, cause Sale is the pitching version of Trout and the majority did handstands of joy after shipping him. Sigh

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 21, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) Depends on the service time/Super Two dates... I don't think the super 2 stuff matters as much as people think.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2017 -> 01:44 PM) I'm not choosing not to understand. In my mind (and I assure you other fans), sure the No. 7 pick was great and the No. 8 pick sucked eggs. But rather than deduce, by gosh I wish we lost 5 more games to get the 7 pick, my brain suggests there are TONS of great players available at 8 and the regime FAILED by taking a Fulmer in that slot. I do have no interest in the draft. As a fan yes I have interest when a Sox draftee ultimately makes the bigs and succeeds. Does not following his progression make me a bad fan? Maybe, but I don't think so. The team that takes the field in Chicago is the one that matters to me. How they get there can be compelling for some, but not me. Give me victories and I'll attend the parade. I'm truly sorry if my position angers/annoys many but the active rooting for losses angers/offends me as well. My bad. We better not see any posts from you in any draft threads this year or next since you are so uninterested in drafts.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 21, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) The Sox are in rebuild mode. Picks aren't guarantees, but sometimes the difference in the 6th pick and 7th pick is huge. Enjoy the games any way you want. I'm enjoying both- when Avi has a big game or Davidson hits a homer, great. When they lose, good...that's what this year is about. This time a million.

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 21, 2017 -> 06:58 AM) I'm still not buying in terms of an extension. I really need to see what the new Avi accomplishes over a full season before I decide if he's a long-term piece. With two more years of control, this is something we can tackle in the offseason. Regardless, it's great news that a soon to be 26 year old has potentially become a core piece. This rebuild is in much better shape if Avi can anchor the middle of the lineup for the next five or six years. Agreed.

QUOTE (spiderman @ May 20, 2017 -> 11:59 PM) I'm no expert, but given his contract, and his up/down performance, is Robertson really going to get the White Sox more than salary relief and maybe a mid level prospect? I don't doubt a team like Washington will trade for him, somebody will, but isn't he under contract for $10M this year this year and next season (obviously this season is probably down to $5M or so by the time July comes).....Is the contract not a big deal anymore given other contracts? I don't think he brings back anything huge personally (I mean top 100 prospect). The Yankees did well in those trades last year since they dealt with teams with great systems. After the Miller trade, Indians still had 5 guys in top 100 and we already know about all the youth on the Cubs. Robles is likely more important to the Nats than say Torres was for the Cubs.

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 05:04 PM) With how well Judge has played this year, Ellsbury going nowhere anytime soon, Harper eventually a strong possibility, and a rising Dustin Fowler at AAA, I really think Clint Frazier & Blake Rutherford could be readily available in a Quintana deal. Throw in a young arm and that's a very attractive package IMO and one the Yankees might actually agreento. It should be obvious to everyone they need to add a couple veteran arms to the top of their rotation if they ever want to be serious contenders. Yeah I would almost guarantee Yankees sign one of Harper/Machado that off season. Of course, maybe they can pull off Harper and Donaldson.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:32 PM) We will still probably sign some long shot international prospects, but Robert is worth going into the penalty box for Plenty of decent prospects will likely sign for $300k due to the new cap.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) Meh, $750k it's 750k Wish it were for next period For next period? They can't do anything with that lol

QUOTE (Tony @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) @CSNHayes 10s Believe #WhiteSox were outbid. Also heard they wowed Luis Robert w/ video presentation from Renteria/Moncada/Abreu. bit.ly/2pWFhDj Wow If it's true they were even outbid.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) But they got Moncada into their system without paying substantial any salary. That's a pretty big discount. Moncada's salary is minimal.