July 25, 20169 yr QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) Sox would do well to get a B- position player prospect back. May as well keep him if thats all you get. That does virtually nothing for the Sox.
July 25, 20169 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 07:13 AM) Don't they list pitch count in the box score? Q was maxed out at like 117 or 119 . I don't think they do but yeah that's a lot of pitches.
July 25, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) May as well keep him if thats all you get. That does virtually nothing for the Sox. If the organization FINALLY commits to a proper rebuild, it gets them out of ~28-30 million and ~2.5 years owed to a position that really won't mean much for a rebuilding team.
July 25, 20169 yr QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) If the organization FINALLY commits to a proper rebuild, it gets them out of ~28-30 million and ~2.5 years owed to a position that really won't mean much for a rebuilding team. $30M does nothing for me as a fan. If they're gonna do a full rebuild and trade everything of value outside of Eaton and Abreu, fine - trade Robertson. But just trading him for a B level prospect and not moving anybody else of substance is worthless. That said, I think he's worth more than that. Look what 2.5 months of Chapman just netted. Edited July 25, 20169 yr by ChiSox59
July 25, 20169 yr Chapman is a lot better than Robertson and the Cubs since they have no money issues have a good chance to re-sign him. Mark
July 25, 20169 yr QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 05:38 PM) Chapman is a lot better than Robertson and the Cubs since they have no money issues have a good chance to re-sign him. Mark I would love to see the Cubs shell out a nine figure contract for Chapman.
August 10, 20169 yr This scrub has already blown 2 wins for Sale, and many others. He's a huge disappointment.
August 10, 20169 yr They're talking $16-17 million per year with Chapman, but a $100 million contract would be completely nuts.
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 10:08 PM) This scrub has already blown 2 wins for Sale, and many others. He's a huge disappointment. 12 blown saves in two seasons... yeah not so fantastic
August 10, 20169 yr Robertson is OK. He's not a lockdown closer but he saves a lot more games than he blows.
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 11:12 PM) Robertson is OK. He's not a lockdown closer but he saves a lot more games than he blows. Tied for Third in 2016 with most blown saves. (And that was before tonite) 26th and 27th in WHIP and ERA. Middle of the pack in save % Not OK, when you consider he's the 3rd highest paid closer in MLB Edited August 10, 20169 yr by captain54
August 10, 20169 yr Would have been better off just sending him back to the Yankees last year...yeah yeah, but we wouldn't have started out 23-10 with Jones as the closer, right? You can just as easily argue Hahn would have had to find multiple options for the pen with no Robertson entering the year, leaving the pen essentially at the same productivity but cheaper in terms of overall cost...freeing up more money for hitting.
August 10, 20169 yr My favorite thing about Robertson is how he blows the games that felt deeply satisfying up to that point.
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 05:15 AM) Would have been better off just sending him back to the Yankees last year... Funny.. I think me and fathom were the only 2 who were secretly hoping Sox would just let him go to the Yanks when they put in the waiver claim. I'll still give them the benefit of the doubt and see if they get something for him.
August 10, 20169 yr Sox closers with >50 saves Name SV SV% IP/G Terry Forster 75 88% 2.1 Bobby Jenks 173 87% 1.0 Keith Foulke 100 85% 1.3 Addison Reed 69 85% 1.0 Rob Hernandez 161 84% 1.1 David Robertson 61 84% 1.0 Ed Farmer 54 81% 1.5 Bobby Thigpen 201 80% 1.3 Bob James 56 77% 1.4
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 07:25 AM) Funny.. I think me and fathom were the only 2 who were secretly hoping Sox would just let him go to the Yanks when they put in the waiver claim. I'll still give them the benefit of the doubt and see if they get something for him. Me three, I was all about letting the Yankees take him for free last year.
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 01:07 AM) Tied for Third in 2016 with most blown saves. (And that was before tonite) 26th and 27th in WHIP and ERA. Middle of the pack in save % Not OK, when you consider he's the 3rd highest paid closer in MLB He might lead the majors in blow saves combined the last two years.
August 10, 20169 yr With Burdi (hopefully), Jones, and possibly Fuller he will be the most expense set up man/ middle reliever in baseball for the next two years.
August 10, 20169 yr I think the Sox have only lost one or two of his blown saves this year. Edited August 10, 20169 yr by Dick Allen
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 09:02 AM) I think the Sox have only lost one or two of his blown saves this year. He's cost Sale at least 2 wins this 2nd half
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) He's cost Sale at least 2 wins this 2nd half And Sale cost himself two starts by going crazy pants on the team. Karma?
August 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) He's cost Sale at least 2 wins this 2nd half That's too bad, but at least they still won the game.
August 10, 20169 yr So now blown saves are only significant if the team loses...not affecting the overall confidence of the team or starting pitchers in any way? By that argument, Danny Wright was a highly valuable of the White Sox rotation when he won 14 games with a 5+ ERA in 2012. You pay David Robertson elite money...you better get something close to that. And with a sub .500 team, he's irrevelant except for soaking up payroll dollars that should first go to catcher, DH and CF.
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