When is Hahn speaking?

Only thing to do...get Uribe and reel off a 40-17.

 

f*** yeah.

One AL source put it this way: #WhiteSox didn't budge off price. “Waiting till winter allows more teams to plan, regroup, enter sweepstakes'

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/760210564723335168

I feel like I'm experiencing an alternate reality or something. You guys are acting like this team is 20 games under .500 and has a bunch of pending free agents.

 

Again, I understand the opinion that the team should rebuild, but I don't understand why everyone is acting like it's unbelievable that they aren't selling. It's very believable. They didn't "blow" anything, they just made a different decision than you wanted.

 

When the GM says "this team is mired in mediocrity" and then doesn't do anything to fix it, then we have to assume that is acceptable to the White Sox.

When is Hahn speaking?

 

He is probably hiding in his executive suite, waiting for Jerry's crack PR team to craft his words for him.

 

Some of you read my posts and remember them. My stance was a month ago we needed to beat everybody to the punch, give up and trade a ton of players not named Sale, Q, Abreu, Anderson. After blowing that, I don't want us to trade today. We'd get fleeced. Make the trades this winter. This season is over. Just play out the string then trade, trade, trade this winter.

If we sell in the offseason for MLB talent, then there's still no direction. Then you have good positional players but no pitching, since you just traded it away

I don't need to listen to Hahn's drivel. f*** that incompetent clown.

Would love to have done what the Yankees did

Anything can still happen around August 30th and in the off season but in my opinion if I had to bet, I'd bet the Sox are going to "go for it" yet again in 2017...just like they went for it in 2015 and 2016.

 

Rebuilding simply isn't in the DNA of this front office for whatever reason or reasons.

 

Now I'm sure the Sox realize that they are going to have to overcome some severe handicaps next year. To wit:

 

1. A poor free agent class.

 

2. Little depth on the major league roster. Trading pieces off it could open up more holes to fill.

 

3. Little depth in the minor league system to make deals. Same situation as the big league roster, they need to hoard the talent they have...not trade it.

 

4. Budget limitations whether self imposed or not.

 

That's a lot to overcome when realistically the Sox are going to have to fill black holes at catcher, center field, DH, at least two spots in the bullpen, three would be better and possibly a back end of the rotation starter.

 

All I can say is that would be a challenge for the best organizations.

 

Mark

 

 

Edited August 1, 20169 yr by Lip Man 1

I look forward to another year of a 3-5th place .500 team!

They haven't been above .500 since 2012. Six losing seasons in the last 9, probably going to be 7 in the last 10. A .500 team would look pretty good.

This is true. Don't get be angry about Sale and Q, because it's possible Sox didn't get fair value for those players and properly held out. But all indications suggest they could have moved the guys you mentioned and gotten something of value for them and/or obtained payroll flexibility at the same time. Seriously, we could have unloaded Shields... Plugged Fulmer into the rotation next year and had roughly $25 million of payroll off the books for next year (Danks + Shields), which could be used to sign some positional talent.

 

 

They did make a move. The traded Duke for a possible CF'er for 2017. The kept a pretty solid club together and we have all winter for potential deals. You don't trade just for the sake of trades.

Aren't you guys excited to watch David Robertson close games thou?

MLB app just pushed an alert... JB Shuck sent down.

 

HUGE game changer right there

I think the Sox made the right decision in not trading Sale and/or Quintana at the deadline. I think the best time to trade them will be at the Winter Meetings because the upcoming pitching market is historically bad. At the Meetings the Sox can not only get fair value for Sale and Quintana but then some because a team will vastly overpay because of how bad the pitching market is.

 

I know that trades can still be made but I would have liked to see guys like Melky, Robertson and maybe NAte Jones all gone.

 

There is no way that the team is going to make the playoffs, so I was hoping that they would waive the white flag on the season. The Sox are playing for draft position now, let hope that they get back into the top ten

They haven't been above .500 since 2012. Six losing seasons in the last 9, probably going to be 7 in the last 10. A .500 team would look pretty good.

:( :(

This is about as mad as I've been since I had the privilege of hearing Marc Trestman after every game.

I think the Sox made the right decision in not trading Sale and/or Quintana at the deadline. I think the best time to trade them will be at the Winter Meetings because the upcoming pitching market is historically bad. At the Meetings the Sox can not only get fair value for Sale and Quintana but then some because a team will vastly overpay because of how bad the pitching market is.

 

I know that trades can still be made but I would have liked to see guys like Melky, Robertson and maybe NAte Jones all gone.

 

There is no way that the team is going to make the playoffs, so I was hoping that they would waive the white flag on the season. The Sox are playing for draft position now, let hope that they get back into the top ten

 

Add James Shields to that list

Since none of our guys are up after this year, I'm actually pretty happy Hahn wasn't allowed to or just didn't trade anyone.

When the GM says "this team is mired in mediocrity" and then doesn't do anything to fix it, then we have to assume that is acceptable to the White Sox.

 

 

Bingo.

 

That directly is out of our GM's mouth. Their response in a market where teams are overpaying for relievers, aging outfielders, and mediocre to bad starters, is to trade one of their relievers for an underwhelming return, sending the message to the existing team you aren't good enough, but we will weaken you slightly more from the mediocre tag we just gave you.

 

It's spineless, directionless, and just straight incompetent.

 

Take a look at what teams like the Yankees and Brewers did. Organizations are just running circles around our front office.

 

This is the lowest I have felt about the Sox future in all the time I have been a fan.

 

 

I feel like I'm experiencing an alternate reality or something. You guys are acting like this team is 20 games under .500 and has a bunch of pending free agents.

 

Again, I understand the opinion that the team should rebuild, but I don't understand why everyone is acting like it's unbelievable that they aren't selling. It's very believable. They didn't "blow" anything, they just made a different decision than you wanted.

Not surprising, more confusing. They can make a decision that goes against the collective vision of the fanbase but what exactly is thier vision? Because I have no idea. Good luck trying to turn around a perpetually .500 team with zero minor league or financial resources without selling off ML assets. I'm f***ing bored.

I think the Sox made the right decision in not trading Sale and/or Quintana at the deadline. I think the best time to trade them will be at the Winter Meetings because the upcoming pitching market is historically bad. At the Meetings the Sox can not only get fair value for Sale and Quintana but then some because a team will vastly overpay because of how bad the pitching market is.

 

I know that trades can still be made but I would have liked to see guys like Melky, Robertson and maybe NAte Jones all gone.

 

There is no way that the team is going to make the playoffs, so I was hoping that they would waive the white flag on the season. The Sox are playing for draft position now, let hope that they get back into the top ten

 

There are maybe two contending teams that will look to add a starter and have strong enough farms. Since the price isn't changing, supposedly, we will wait all ofsseason for a team to pay it, while they find other options. Next deadline, when the Sox are below .500 again, we will watch it unfold again. It's like Groundhog Day, being a White Sox fan.

Edited August 1, 20169 yr by daggins

Rick Hahn: 'We had number conversations about every team in baseball but no other deals made sense for long-term competitiveness standpoint'

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/760215176779931649

 

This sounds exactly like the speech I posted yesterday

Rick Hahn: 'We had number conversations about every team in baseball but no other deals made sense for long-term competitiveness standpoint'

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/760215176779931649

 

This sounds exactly like the speech I posted yesterday

 

He needs to use the word "ultimately...".

I'll give them until April 2017 before I join the lynch mob but boy - what a completely unsurprising utter disappointment