GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Or somehow Tilson went really, really right. At age 26 with the money the Sox should have, I'm down of he'd be the last piece. Same. I have a buddy who's a diehard O's fan. I said just watch the Sox sign him in 2 years, he said no way and if it happens he'll buy me a jersey lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) you shouldn't count on all of them being good MLB players. Many of them will not. I'm speculating big big time here, but we would not even need all/most of those players to pan out We have the draft, trades and free agency to build up the roster We would have an amazing amount of payroll flexibility to go out and sign a few big time free agents and try to contend I'm giving Tilesen the benefit of the doubt to stick around, perhaps as a fourth outfielder? He has no power and his arm is fringy, but his other tools are all solid or slightly above average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) Machado will want ARod money - and he could get it. When ARod signed with Texas back in the day, I believe we had the second highest offer at $190M. With a new TV deal being in the works, I could definitely see Reinsdorf being very motivated to make a free agent splash to help boost its value. And clearly we'll have a ton of financial flexibility to fit such a salary in our budget. While it's unlikely we land a guy like Machado, I fully expect us to be in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Or somehow Tilson went really, really right. At age 26 with the money the Sox should have, I'm down of he'd be the last piece. Add Machado to that team = WOW Insane level of pitcher and position player talent. I'm not even sure they need someone on Machado's level, just a solid 3B and OF would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 To state the obvious, we really need to start drafting and developing better, especially when it comes to position players. It's always frustrating to see all these well-stocked farm systems and then we have to give up a Chris Sale or Jose Quintana just to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) When ARod signed with Texas back in the day, I believe we had the second highest offer at $190M. With a new TV deal being in the works, I could definitely see Reinsdorf being very motivated to make a free agent splash to help boost its value. And clearly we'll have a ton of financial flexibility to fit such a salary in our budget. While it's unlikely we land a guy like Machado, I fully expect us to be in the mix. We will have tons of money to spend, plus free agents will likely notice the sort of team we will be building here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzfest Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) To state the obvious, we really need to start drafting and developing better, especially when it comes to position players. It's always frustrating to see all these well-stocked farm systems and then we have to give up a Chris Sale or Jose Quintana just to catch up. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 01:26 PM) We will have tons of money to spend, plus free agents will likely notice the sort of team we will be building here And they'll all be unable to resist the shine of "guaranteed rate" branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) And they'll all be unable to resist the shine of "guaranteed rate" branding. Naked Ty Pennington is blinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:27 PM) And they'll all be unable to resist the shine of "guaranteed rate" branding. Sorry to bring the Cubs into this, but having this young core and hopefully they succeed because the attractiveness from free agents in 2 years, they will take notice. Lester did (it helped that Theo was there), but saw the potential. Hahn and the young core could do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) To state the obvious, we really need to start drafting and developing better, especially when it comes to position players. It's always frustrating to see all these well-stocked farm systems and then we have to give up a Chris Sale or Jose Quintana just to catch up. We've come a long way. They're drafting in the right direction - 2014 => 2015 => 2016 all saw a progression of our draft philosophy which I expect will continue into 2017 and 2018. We really need to start spending more in international signings. How many of these prospects we've been drooling over have been international signings? Seems like AT LEAST half to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) Naked Ty Pennington is blinding. Balta, what is a good Pirates message board? Trying to get a feel for what they think. I found a few, but very little action on the Q talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) C- Collins (fingers crossed) 1B - Bell 2B - Moncada SS - Anderson 3B - Machado OF- Meadows OF- Basabe OF- Beer DH - Abreu Fixed it for you, and all I gotta say is Woof. Edited December 22, 2016 by SoxPride18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) Balta, what is a good Pirates message board? Trying to get a feel for what they think. I found a few, but very little action on the Q talk. Total pipe dream here = That farm system would be absolutely locked and loaded to compete in the next few years Add in some other shrewd moves and/or free agent signings and you are looking at a playoff team if things go well 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez Pen arm possibilities (or other starters): Burdi, Dunning, Stephens, Adams, Fulmer, Hansen, Clark, Cooper C- Collins (fingers crossed) 1B - Bell 2B - Moncada and/or Newman SS - Anderson 3B - MACHADO OF- Meadows OF- Basabe OF- BEER DH - ABREU As a Sox fan you can dream of a scenario like this... That roster projection is totally loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Fixed it for you, and all I gotta say is Woof. You just beat me to it! hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) You just beat me to it! hahahaha LOL, that is fantastic, but yes, that lineup is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Fixed it for you, and all I gotta say is Woof. I don't know if I like the pitching potential, or the offensive juggernaut potential of that team more You would have power: Beer, Collins, Abreu, Moncada, Meadows, Basabe, Machado Speed: Anderson, Moncada, Basabe The ceiling of the rotation is absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) I don't know if I like the pitching potential, or the offensive juggernaut potential of that team more You would have power: Beer, Collins, Abreu, Moncada, Meadows, Basabe, Machado Speed: Anderson, Moncada, Basabe The ceiling of the rotation is absurd Scary thing is that Sox would still have enough money to acquire an ace pitcher too because of how cheap the lineup is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 My impression was that woof was a bad thing, origin: Home Alone "Buzz's girlfriend...woof" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Total pipe dream here = That farm system would be absolutely locked and loaded to compete in the next few years Add in some other shrewd moves and/or free agent signings and you are looking at a playoff team if things go well 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez Pen arm possibilities (or other starters): Burdi, Dunning, Stephens, Adams, Fulmer, Hansen, Clark, Cooper C- Collins (fingers crossed) 1B - Bell 2B - Moncada and/or Newman SS - Anderson 3B - MACHADO OF- Meadows OF- Basabe OF- BEER DH - ABREU As a Sox fan you can dream of a scenario like this... That roster projection is totally loaded Any rotationtnat relegates Hansen to the pen... wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) My impression was that woof was a bad thing, origin: Home Alone "Buzz's girlfriend...woof" Us millennials have changed the definition. Sorry about that, bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Guys I don't quite see us as the worst team (yet). We should also probably pump our brakes on a guy who won't be drafted for two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Any rotationtnat relegates Hansen to the pen... wow. That's what it is right now. Take his scenario but insert Q instead of Glasnow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Us millennials have changed the definition. Sorry about that, bud f***ing millenials (coming from a millenial). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I invented millenials guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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