fredmanrique Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I keep hoping for a mega deal. Whatever it takes to get bregman, meadows or torres included plus more. I'd still be satisfied with Tucker, Martes, Paulino ++ or Bell, Glasnow/Keller, Newman + But, if we neer to add frazier, jones, robertson, melky to these deals, lets do it. Take back bad contracts or pay 80% of frazier or melky or robertson. It is our last chance at a stud hitting prospect to pair long term with moncada and hopefully collins until the next two drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm a fan of including Frazier to grease a deal or enhance the return. I also think if there's a pitcher from the Astros the Sox should want its Franklin Perez, he absolutely bulldozed A-ball as a 18 year old. Kinda like Tucker, you're buying this guy now because its possible he'll be in the top 10 this time next year. I'd probably rather have him than Martes, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The Sox are not getting Meadows or Bregman. Carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I cant tell if you guys are being serious but of the Bregman/Torres/Meadows ultraheadliner pool Meadows definitely feels the most available. The Astros are so drunk on Bregman hype its probably not worth meeting their price on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:59 PM) I cant tell if you guys are being serious but of the Bregman/Torres/Meadows ultraheadliner pool Meadows definitely feels the most available. The Astros are so drunk on Bregman hype its probably not worth meeting their price on him. Meadows is cutch replacement not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Meadows is cutch replacement not happening Tell me where Cutch is going in the next 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) Based on what? Can we stop with the s***posting? Based on the theorem that a troll is gonna be a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) Meadows is cutch replacement not happening Bregman I'd not going anywhere. If the Astros get reasonable then I can see a trade based around martes, tucker ++ working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) I'm a fan of including Frazier to grease a deal or enhance the return. I also think if there's a pitcher from the Astros the Sox should want its Franklin Perez, he absolutely bulldozed A-ball as a 18 year old. Kinda like Tucker, you're buying this guy now because its possible he'll be in the top 10 this time next year. I'd probably rather have him than Martes, to be honest. With ya on Perez and actually prefer him over Paulino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I really hope if the Astros make the deal, AJ Reed is a throw in buy low guyI know a lot of people are down on him, but his minor league track record is awesome, and although he was a bit younger which does make a difference, look at Anthony Rizzo's first couple hundred PA in the major leagues. Brutal. This guy is huge with a lot of potential.he could become a cult hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I love all of these "untouchables" on other teams. Quintana is an absolute stud and is beyond "untouchable"...but guess what, he is touchable. And so are these supposed untouchables from other teams. The stare downs will continue until someone breaks...and someone will break, it just won't be Hahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) Something to note if they tried for Machado. Moncada could move to CF, while Bregman could go to second. True, but who knows how well Moncada would adjust to a different position. It might be better to keep him in a spot he's comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 07:15 PM) True, but who knows how well Moncada would adjust to a different position. It might be better to keep him in a spot he's comfortable with. Sports mockery suggests the Astros are offering martes, tucker and paulino for Quintana. Feels light. Give me reed and perez instead of paulino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:20 PM) Sports mockery suggests the Astros are offering martes, tucker and paulino for Quintana. Feels light. Give me reed and perez instead of paulino I usually try not to bash many sites or people for their sources or lack of but Sports Mockery is legit trash when it comes to this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) I have no interest in Machado at the price he will command. Like absolutely zero. If you felt uneasy about Adam Eaton, really a damn fine guy character wise, you're going to HATE Manny Machado picking fights with opponents and throwing his batting helmet around. And then you'll have to outbid the Yankees throwing $300m+ at him...nothanks. Edited January 7, 2017 by Con te Giolito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:21 PM) I usually try not to bash many sites or people for their sources or lack of but Sports Mockery is legit trash when it comes to this stuff. It did come from one of their own so yeah I wouldn't put much stock in it. Unless the guy has legit sources like WSD. Their articles feel more like click bait though. Edited January 7, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Via Sean Sears on Twitter : "The #Astros are willing to part with Tucker, Martes, and Paulino for #Sox Jose Quintana, per source" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:57 PM) The Sox are not getting Meadows or Bregman. Carry on... I'm not certain Meadows is off limits. Bregman I agree on, but until the Pirates move McCutchen I think Meadows is still a possibility even if it's a remote one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) I usually try not to bash many sites or people for their sources or lack of but Sports Mockery is legit trash when it comes to this stuff. I know it's trash, but it's interesting to discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (heirdog @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:14 PM) I love all of these "untouchables" on other teams. Quintana is an absolute stud and is beyond "untouchable"...but guess what, he is touchable. And so are these supposed untouchables from other teams. The stare downs will continue until someone breaks...and someone will break, it just won't be Hahn. right, it won't likely be on Hahn until sometime in the middle of July, there's little pressure on him to get a deal done right now. If a team that wants to contend in 2017 thinks Q is the answer, well, they probably want him now rather than in July and might get an itchy trigger finger. Edited January 7, 2017 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:27 PM) I know it's trash, but it's interesting to discuss Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 So if Q and his contract aren't worth a prospect like Bregman or Meadows...then who is? I always thought you had to trade more prospects for an allstar MLB player. Apparently now you have to trade more MLB players for one untouchable prospect? GMAFB. Chris Sale was worth the absolute #1 prospect plus three other really good prospects. Jose Quintana can get Bregman+ Jose Quintana can get Meadows+ It's not even a debate. It's just going to have to hurt if you're the Astros or Pirates. That's how trading for Allstar pitchers with legendary contracts works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:25 PM) Via Sean Sears on Twitter : "The #Astros are willing to part with Tucker, Martes, and Paulino for #Sox Jose Quintana, per source" Based on comments and tweets following, it looks like he has no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) So if Q and his contract aren't worth a prospect like Bregman or Meadows...then who is? I always thought you had to trade more prospects for an allstar MLB player. Apparently now you have to trade more MLB players for one untouchable prospect? GMAFB. Chris Sale was worth the absolute #1 prospect plus three other really good prospects. Jose Quintana can get Bregman+ Jose Quintana can get Meadows+ It's not even a debate. It's just going to have to hurt if you're the Astros or Pirates. That's how trading for Allstar pitchers with legendary contracts works. Q is worth those guys + but doesn't mean their teams will trade them. That said, I don't think anyone is ever untouchable. Maybe the 'Stros don't want to include Bregman but that could change, same with Meadows and anyone else. There's no reason for posters to keep yelling that "Bregman wont be traded" every time he gets mentioned. No one knows if that's true or not. Edited January 7, 2017 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 06:27 PM) I know it's trash, but it's interesting to discuss I'd have to agree. More often than not that site grasps at straws, but it doesn't hurt to discuss it. Martes, Tucker, and Paulino are the Astros 1, 2, and 4 prospects. That's not that bad, although I really wish they would get some damn hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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