February 14, 20179 yr Succinct https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/831545820851761152 David Robertson on White Sox: "They're rebuilding. Either I'll be a part of it or I'll be moved."
February 14, 20179 yr Seeing some of the first interviews at camp come in and all I have to say is I am sure these guys LOVE talking about being shopped around.
February 14, 20179 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) Succinct https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/831545820851761152 Damn. That quote is pretty telling and I'd be shocked if Robertson was a part of their long term plans.
February 14, 20179 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Damn. That quote is pretty telling and I'd be shocked if Robertson was a part of their long term plans. What else would he say? That's basically the situation him and all the veterans are in lol Edited February 14, 20179 yr by soxfan2014
February 14, 20179 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) What else would he say? That's basically the situation him and all the veterans are in lol I didn't think he'd comment on it at all. Some guys don't like to talk about off the field distractions to the media.
February 14, 20179 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) Succinct https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/831545820851761152 Honestly that is the best possible answer that a player can give in that situation.
February 20, 20179 yr Author Rizzo told us that they have NOT had trade conversations for a closer in “quite sometime”. They think answer is in camp.@SiriusXMFantasy https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833695541699760132
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) Rizzo told us that they have NOT had trade conversations for a closer in “quite sometime”. They think answer is in camp.@SiriusXMFantasy https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833695541699760132 There were tons of Robertson to the Nats rumors about a week ago, so not sure what that is all about The Nationals can roll with Kelley, who is a quality reliever, as closer. There is significant risk for a team with World Series aspirations having such an unproven bullpen outside of Kelley and Trienen though
February 20, 20179 yr Author Mike Rizzo told us the Nats closer will come from Shawn Kelley, Blake Treinin or Koda Glover #Nationals https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833696679266222081
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) Mike Rizzo told us the Nats closer will come from Shawn Kelley, Blake Treinin or Koda Glover #Nationals https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833696679266222081 That pen is definitely not strong enough to win in the playoffs, or regular season for that matter Washington is a very top heavy team, quality starters and regular position players, but questionable bullpen and bench
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) That pen is definitely not strong enough to win in the playoffs, or regular season for that matter Washington is a very top heavy team, quality starters and regular position players, but questionable bullpen and bench Bullpen additions can be made midseason though, as evidenced by the Cubs and Indians last year. I think they are perfectly reasonable going to into the year with what they have. Ideally, Robertson kills it in the first half and increases his value.
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 10:07 AM) Bullpen additions can be made midseason though, as evidenced by the Cubs and Indians last year. I think they are perfectly reasonable going to into the year with what they have. Ideally, Robertson kills it in the first half and increases his value. That pen needs more than one quality addition before it is ready for a playoff run Sure, the Nats can rely on in season trades to bring in talent, but those almost always end up being expensive. Their farm system is not what it was prior to the Eaton trade either. Robles, Fedde and Soto top it, but not a ton beyond them that can land a quality reliever midseason
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) Rizzo told us that they have NOT had trade conversations for a closer in "quite sometime". They think answer is in camp.@SiriusXMFantasy https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833695541699760132 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) Mike Rizzo told us the Nats closer will come from Shawn Kelley, Blake Treinin or Koda Glover #Nationals https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/833696679266222081 Which is exactly what a GM has to say. I know people get pissy about Kenny Williams saying stuff like this, but this is just generic GM speak. You have to pretend that the team you have is the team you want, even if you are actively shopping behind closed doors for improvements.
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) That pen needs more than one quality addition before it is ready for a playoff run Sure, the Nats can rely on in season trades to bring in talent, but those almost always end up being expensive. Their farm system is not what it was prior to the Eaton trade either. Robles, Fedde and Soto top it, but not a ton beyond them that can land a quality reliever midseason Kelley, Treinen, Solis, Glover, and Perez are all solid, and they have a few upside arms too. I think the Nationals bullpen is good enough to start the season. If their bullpen completely fails, then they were doomed anyways.
February 20, 20179 yr Rizzo does not want to get too far behind division leaders right out of the gate. Rizzo could be bluffing as well. Perhaps if Hahn offered Robertson plus Nate Jones, that would let Rizzo sleep better at night knowing he has two more relievers in case the pitchers he has under perform. And if that is what Hahn offers, Robles has to be the headliner in the return package.
February 20, 20179 yr QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 06:44 PM) When asked this question, in Spring Training, did anyone expect Rizzo to say "Man, these guys in camp here suck. Hope someone is out there that can help us." I still think we will all be underwhelmed with what Robertson brings back, but it still should be a decent piece. If that means the Sox acquire it in June rather than February, not the end of the world. Robertson is probably the least risky "wait until July" trade candidate the Sox have. It's not like he's coming off a career year, his performance this year should regress positively for him, and help his value. He could of course get hurt, but as a reliever that risk is minimal, at least as much as it can be for a MLB pitcher. And, with the 2nd WC, 2/3 of baseball is going to see themselves as a playoff contender in July, there will be plenty of clubs looking for bullpen help for the stretch run.
February 21, 20179 yr QUOTE (Real @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 10:20 PM) just ooc, has robertson ever worked as a starter? in the minors or majors He started 3 of his 32 games his Freshman year at Alabama.
February 21, 20179 yr QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) When asked this question, in Spring Training, did anyone expect Rizzo to say "Man, these guys in camp here suck. Hope someone is out there that can help us." I still think we will all be underwhelmed with what Robertson brings back, but it still should be a decent piece. If that means the Sox acquire it in June rather than February, not the end of the world. Exactly.
February 21, 20179 yr Nationals rumored to be signing Matt Weiters. I don't keep up a ton with the Nationals backstop situation -- but let's say it's a 3-4 year deal does that open the opportunity to go after Severino? I think that's the name of that minor league catcher were talking about on here. Maybe it's a precursor move? I'd guess only if it was 3-4 year deal though. If it's a 1 year deal probably doesn't mean anything.
February 21, 20179 yr Author QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Nationals rumored to be signing Matt Weiters. I don't keep up a ton with the Nationals backstop situation -- but let's say it's a 3-4 year deal does that open the opportunity to go after Severino? I think that's the name of that minor league catcher were talking about on here. Maybe it's a precursor move? I'd guess only if it was 3-4 year deal though. If it's a 1 year deal probably doesn't mean anything. Looks like possibly 2 yr deal with a option Edited February 21, 20179 yr by WhiteSoxLifer
February 21, 20179 yr QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Nationals rumored to be signing Matt Weiters. I don't keep up a ton with the Nationals backstop situation -- but let's say it's a 3-4 year deal does that open the opportunity to go after Severino? I think that's the name of that minor league catcher were talking about on here. Maybe it's a precursor move? I'd guess only if it was 3-4 year deal though. If it's a 1 year deal probably doesn't mean anything. While I think it's possible, I don't think the hangup on the deal is Severino. I think the Nationals end up moving Norris and just using Lobaton as a backup.
February 21, 20179 yr Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo now As many have pointed out, Wieters deal also gives Nats room to trade Pedro Severino in a deal for a reliever like David Robertson.
February 21, 20179 yr I'd be almost certain now that Severino would be involved in a Robertson package if a trade did happen.
February 21, 20179 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 09:23 AM) I'd be almost certain now that Severino would be involved in a Robertson package if a trade did happen. Agreed, he's likely expendable. But like I said above, I'm not sure he was the hangup in a deal.
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