Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Concern was Wake Forest is very hitter friendly environment. Also is hr distance was one of the lowest with college players that year. But I thought Wake Forest has Statcast data or something similar and based on that info Sheets’ power was legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Why doesn’t he get excused? What if he hits a buncha homers next year? Would that be ok? Sure it would be a nice bounce back from what is shaping up to be an underwhelming season. If he's going to Birmingham, it's going to be tough in that ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: Sure it would be a nice bounce back from what is shaping up to be an underwhelming season. If he's going to Birmingham, it's going to be tough in that ballpark. With Sheets it’s clearly a launch angle issue. He hits way too many balls on the ground in games I’ve watched. That can hopefully be addressed during the offseason and his 70 grade raw power should allow for improvement next year even in Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: With Sheets it’s clearly a launch angle issue. He hits way too many balls on the ground in games I’ve watched. That can hopefully be addressed during the offseason and his 70 grade raw power should allow for improvement next year even in Birmingham. Couldn't agree more. In the games I've watched, if a pitcher throws a sinker, he just hits it right into the ground. Rutherford has similar issues as well. As for Sheets, I'm not a big fan of his batting stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderdale Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: On a somewhat related note, from Keith Law's chat today: 90/10? Makes me feel like law is a idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Anderdale said: 90/10? Makes me feel like law is a idiot. I've still yet to see ANY publication be optimistic about his ability to catch. I think Fangraphs said best case scenario is a Carlos Santana type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: On a somewhat related note, from Keith Law's chat today: Keith law hates the white sox! Always has!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I've still yet to see ANY publication be optimistic about his ability to catch. I think Fangraphs said best case scenario is a Carlos Santana type. Carlos Santana caught for awhile though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: But I thought Wake Forest has Statcast data or something similar and based on that info Sheets’ power was legit? Trackman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 It isn't just launch angle for Sheets. It's also how much he lets loose with his swing, and finding the right happy place between swinging out of his shoes and becoming a slapper. I am still not concerned about the lack of power. And I'll link this again, in case anyone missed it, where that case is made in detail. Also FYI, I can't speak to his HR distance in college, but he can hit some monster tanks now. I've seen it in BP. Well beyond what even guys like Adolfo were hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I am not a fan of ranking Collins outside the T100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, Jake said: I am not a fan of ranking Collins outside the T100. I agree, but if he really only has a 10% chance of sticking at catcher I can kind of understand. But still, he’s been one the best hitters in the Southern League this year and hasn’t been able to focus on offense as much as other prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 it annoys me that Sosa isn't in backend top 30 and annoys me he's never mentioned anywhere because it probably means I'm overemphasizing his production. But, full season ball will tell all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I agree, but if he really only has a 10% chance of sticking at catcher I can kind of understand. But still, he’s been one the best hitters in the Southern League this year and hasn’t been able to focus on offense as much as other prospects. But then if you look at him as a future platoon 1b, those guys don't get ranked very high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, bmags said: it annoys me that Sosa isn't in backend top 30 and annoys me he's never mentioned anywhere because it probably means I'm overemphasizing his production. But, full season ball will tell all. I was just reading BA’s write-up on him from their pre-season top 30 and it kind of got me down on him. His lack of speed is a bit concerning for a middle infield prospect. Quote Sosa, who signed with the White Sox on July 2, 2016, was considered one of the best hitting shortstops out of Venezuela in that year's international class and received a $350,000 bonus. As an amateur, he showed coordination, bat-to-ball skills and a touch of gap power as well. The White Sox challenged Sosa by sending him to the Rookie-level Arizona League. He rewarded their confidence. Sosa has a simple, fluid swing that should allow him to continue to hit for average as he matures. Though evaluators believe he will eventually move off of shortstop as he gets bigger and stronger--they note he's already a below-average runner--he has above-average or better hands and average arm strength. If Sosa gains power he'll also profile better offensively at third. The White Sox may continue their aggressive path with Sosa and move him to low Class A Kannapolis as an 18-year-old at some point in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, fathom said: But then if you look at him as a future platoon 1b, those guys don't get ranked very high. I guess I’m less concerned with left-handed hitters showing platoon splits in the minors, especially one who hasn’t been able to focus solely on his offensive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Total meh for me, I don't put a lot of weight into body projections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 43 minutes ago, fathom said: But then if you look at him as a future platoon 1b, those guys don't get ranked very high. Of course FG ranks him T100 as a 1B, which is fair IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joejoedairy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, DirtySox said: The question was specifically about collins and basabe, so thats what he answered. But I wonder if Hansen was considered close to their top 100 as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 1:46 PM, joejoedairy said: The question was specifically about collins and basabe, so thats what he answered. But I wonder if Hansen was considered close to their top 100 as well? Bryce Bush is quietly putting up big numbers in 13 games so far in the AZL batting .425 with more walks than strikeouts, 1.061 OPS. I know the AZL isn't the great competition, but he is still only 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 10:26 AM, bmags said: it annoys me that Sosa isn't in backend top 30 and annoys me he's never mentioned anywhere because it probably means I'm overemphasizing his production. But, full season ball will tell all. Sosa will be on our FutureSox list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 FG updated their BOARD today with two big surprise to me with Collins being at #67 and Basabe at #84. Collins was listed as a 1B, but that is still a pretty high ranking for him and I think this is the first list I've seen with Basabe in the top 100. They are lower on Cease and Dunning, but with 9 guys in the top 100, I'm pretty happy with the list. https://www.fangraphs.com/scoutboard.aspx?draft=&type=&pos=&team=chw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GenericUserName said: FG updated their BOARD today with two big surprise to me with Collins being at #67 and Basabe at #84. Collins was listed as a 1B, but that is still a pretty high ranking for him and I think this is the first list I've seen with Basabe in the top 100. They are lower on Cease and Dunning, but with 9 guys in the top 100, I'm pretty happy with the list. https://www.fangraphs.com/scoutboard.aspx?draft=&type=&pos=&team=chw Given the defensive liabilities of Collins, which have not been improved much by most accounts, it defies reason to me how one could rate him above Cease. While Cease has always been plagued by questions concerning his command, his walk rate has improved with every promotion. Edited July 31, 2018 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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