https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/10/21/report-joe-girardi-waiting-for-opening-with-cubs/

 

Although of course the article only cares to go in depth on the Cubs situation, Heyman tweeted out that Girardi is holding out for a Chicago team.

 

That being said, does anyone feel the Sox would do to Renteria what the Cubs already did to him before, and ditch him right before the team gets good? Is that something you'd want to see?

I think the Sox SHOULD do it (and offer Rick a bench job if he's willing), but I think the Sox are far too loyal to do something like that. It seems to cold for their style.

I’m not really that much a believer in these “star” managers. The only one I’d stop everything for is Francona.

That said, Girardi in my book is much better than Renteria, so I don’t see a reason not to unless you tell me the money he’s paid will prevent Sox from doing more in FA.

Would take Maddon or Banister....

I dont think the Sox are that forward thinking to do this, but yes they should

When national guys say Chicago, they mean the Cubs. So I don't think he's a realistic option. Also, paying a manager is not Jerry's MO. 

1 hour ago, daggins said:

When national guys say Chicago, they mean the Cubs. So I don't think he's a realistic option. Also, paying a manager is not Jerry's MO. 

I don't think that Girardi would be the sort who would actually forget us. He could have said holding out for the Cubs and no one would have blamed him. That language seems to specifically include the White Sox. Maybe there was something lost in the paraphrasing, but that seems to be the opposite meaning.

8 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/10/21/report-joe-girardi-waiting-for-opening-with-cubs/

 

Although of course the article only cares to go in depth on the Cubs situation, Heyman tweeted out that Girardi is holding out for a Chicago team.

 

That being said, does anyone feel the Sox would do to Renteria what the Cubs already did to him before, and ditch him right before the team gets good? Is that something you'd want to see?

The difference with us vs. Cubs scenario is Ricky had a promising season with the Cubs, two bad ones with us.

It's a nice fluff article but Heyman absolutely was referring to the Cubs. 

Girardi seems like a better fit with a team of veterans than a young, rebuilding roster.

This is almost Levine-like in its lack of research and logical follow up.

Hard pass

Don't think Girardi is all that great, but I'm no fan of Ricky either

a manager is a manager is a manager - they take all the heat in the bad times and glory in the good times but rarely do I think you can quantify their impact. I'm not sure in this day and age a manager makes as big of a difference as they maybe used to. Now with so much information available it's really if the manager (and his bench team) are willing to apply said information and make tough moves.

 

I have no idea of Girardi is the type of guy to move with the times or dig in and be an "old school" guy. I will say if he lasted a decade in the Bronx that he probably is an upgrade though over Ricky & most other managers. I'd be willing to talk to him if we don't see much of a step forward this year with Ricky. I was expecting a few more nice jumps from our players this year and I do think he has to be held somewhat accountable for that.

To me managing comes down to 2 things. Running your bullpen, and making sure guys don't check out. Other than that, there are millions capable of being a major league managet.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/sox-drawer-qa-joe-girardi-enoy-jimenez-and-chris-sales-infected-belly-button

 

Q: Jon Heyman tweeted out earlier that Joe Girardi pulled out of the Reds managerial search because he wants to wait a year for the Chicago job. Do you think he’s talking about the Sox? — @piratedwight

CG: I don’t know if the report is true or not, but what I do know is that Girardi grew up a Cubs fan and he later played for the Cubs. Put those two together and I’d assume he would love to manage them in the future. Something to consider: The main reason Yankees general manager Brian Cashman gave for firing Girardi in 2017 was that he felt he had trouble communicating and connecting with the young players. For a young, rebuilding team like the White Sox, that might be a red flag. Granted, that’s the Yankees' side of the story. Personally, I don’t think he’s interested in managing the White Sox.

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

To me managing comes down to 2 things. Running your bullpen, and making sure guys don't check out. Other than that, there are millions capable of being a major league managet.

Don't forget never calling for a bunt. This is the American League. Never bunt. It's one of my (and others I'm sure) main criticisms of Rick Renteria.

I think it's a moot point since Ricky's keeping the seat warm for Vizquel anyway....

Barely mentioned but the Chicago Fire have the inside track on this one. The Sox might hire Eunice Castrata if she turns down her option year with the Chicago Sky. 

 

2 hours ago, Wanne said:

I think it's a moot point since Ricky's keeping the seat warm for Vizquel anyway....

Unfortunately probably true. Vizquel would certainly be a great infield instructor though.

If he can "fix" Alexei, he can do the same with Moncada.

Theoretically.

3 hours ago, aryzner said:

Don't forget never calling for a bunt. This is the American League. Never bunt. It's one of my (and others I'm sure) main criticisms of Rick Renteria.

Don't want to debate it but there are times that bunting is a good strategy to avoid a DP late in a game where only 1 run could mean victory. Of course then the opposing manager could walk the bases loaded but still I'll take the man on third with 1 out when it's the potential winning run and maybe even the tying run too.

Ibanez, Bannister, Baldelli (if he isn’t hired), and Josh Paul for me. 

 

53 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

Ibanez, Bannister, Baldelli (if he isn’t hired), and Josh Paul for me. 

 

Josh Paul, wow, I haven't heard that name in like 15 years. Had no idea he was the Angels bench coach.

My guess is that the cubs and Joe agreed that he would retire after this year.  I also believe the cubs called Girardi and told him this.

 

On 10/23/2018 at 2:37 AM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Josh Paul, wow, I haven't heard that name in like 15 years. Had no idea he was the Angels bench coach.

The guy behind the plate for the AJ "Ball in the dirt"