February 27, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I know the Sox probably don't want their name bandied about in the media / negotiations due to the Machado fallout, but what is stopping Boras or Boras' mouthpieces from still using the Sox for leverage? Even if it is against the Sox wishes, there is nothing really stopping the Sox from still being used left and right even if they're in this thing and don't want it public. Whats your take there? Maybe if he thinks the Sox are actually willing to be one of the higher bidders he doesn't want to piss them off and make them less receptive to negotiations. Plus, right now there are enough other teams being thrown around to increase the price that he doesn't need to bring the Sox up. Once things get closer to finished he can leak it for that last few million, but no need to do that yet.
February 27, 20197 yr Because if you have a serious high offer on the table and you ask politely not to mention your teams involvement and to do so would run the risk of the offer being pulled. That's why there would be silence about the Sox right now.
February 27, 20197 yr Just now, GenericUserName said: Maybe if he thinks the Sox are actually willing to be one of the higher bidders he doesn't want to piss them off and make them less receptive to negotiations. Plus, right now there are enough other teams being thrown around to increase the price that he doesn't need to bring the Sox up. Once things get closer to finished he can leak it for that last few million, but no need to do that yet. I just think that is too much respect to give a team that has never shown they would actually do what it takes to sign a player like this, and it's not like Boras and JR are best buds.
February 27, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: just offer Harper an 8/175 deal with an optout after the 8th year. done deal! They can give him five hundred million dollars in incentives too. That will seal it.
February 27, 20197 yr 7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I know the Sox probably don't want their name bandied about in the media / negotiations due to the Machado fallout, but what is stopping Boras or Boras' mouthpieces from still using the Sox for leverage? Even if it is against the Sox wishes, there is nothing really stopping the Sox from still being used left and right even if they're in this thing and don't want it public. Whats your take there? Who knows. Maybe its a Reinsdorf thing?
February 27, 20197 yr Incentive: Every time Harper burns a Cubs W flag in RF, it's $500k. $10M if it's a Cubs game. $50M if it's a walk off and he rounds the bases with a burning flag.
February 27, 20197 yr 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I don't buy the Dodgers for the same reason I don't buy the Cubs. They have cash flow restrictions. They just went and told their investors that they wouldn't go over the cap for the next couple of seasons. Didn't people say that the Padres could never afford Machado due to debt obligations from renovating Petco? It's time to stop assuming that we know the financial picture of all these teams. No one on this board knows jack about the Cubs or Dodgers internal cash flow restrictions. Circumstances change and the Dodgers are hungry for a WS. Maybe they are about to dump a bunch of payroll via trade with a team like the Sox? Edited February 27, 20197 yr by OneDog847
February 27, 20197 yr I just can’t see Bryce signing with the Giants. They are going to be terrible for 3-4 years at least and play in a park where hitters numbers go to die. This makes zero sense. Edited February 27, 20197 yr by GermanSoxFan
February 27, 20197 yr Dammit I'm not ready to get hurt again. It's too soon. Edited February 27, 20197 yr by soxfan2014
February 27, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, OneDog847 said: Didn't people say that the Padres could never afford Machado due to debt obligations on renovating Petco? It's time to stop assuming that we know the financial picture of all these teams. No one on this board knows jack about the Cubs or Dodgers internal cash flow restrictions. Circumstances change and the Dodgers are hungry for a WS. Maybe they are about to dump a bunch of payroll via trade with a team like the Sox? If we're absolutely not going to sign Harper and we can get some good prospects or even solid players (like Joc Pederson, though I'd want to see about an extension for him) off their roster I'm fine with this. I'm still pissed off at the team but at least this is something.
February 27, 20197 yr 48 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: This is a pretty good article about the Phillies. The White Sox are in the same boat. How many of these guys in the future are going to be available? https://theathletic.com/840072/2019/02/26/arenados-260-million-extension-and-the-prevailing-thought-that-this-must-be-the-phillies-bryce-harper-moment/ Doesn’t matter, we’ll get 2 win Puig next year for 4/$70M and lock down 3rd place finishes in the Central for the next half decade!!
February 27, 20197 yr it boils down to the fact that harper wants to be on the west coast, and one of those teams will pony up
February 27, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Doesn’t matter, we’ll get 2 win Puig next year for 4/$70M and lock down 3rd place finishes in the Central for the next half decade!! I prefer pollyana CWS.
February 27, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I prefer pollyana CWS. This organization literally destroyed my optimism in one fair swoop and I hate it man. I need an under-the-radar strike of Harper for it to come back and I do think there is some small chance they could pull it off.
February 27, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: Agree with this except for the order of Giants and Dodgers. I can't believe that the Dodgers would let him go to the Giants. There is a lot of bad blood there. That was only because the Giants are apparently willing to go ten years. If the Dodgers offer a 6+ year deal I think he takes it.
February 27, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Peacock Wrestler said: That was only because the Giants are apparently willing to go ten years. If the Dodgers offer a 6+ year deal I think he takes it. Wasn't there a tweet somewhere in this thread that every team talking to Boras has offered 10 years?
February 27, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: This organization literally destroyed my optimism in one fair swoop and I hate it man. I need an under-the-radar strike of Harper for it to come back and I do think there is some small chance they could pull it off. You and me man, we were 2 of the biggest believers on this board that they were going to pull this out. I have zero faith in them anymore, including with Harper. Too much smoke around the West Coast for me to believe the Sox will suddenly just blow everybody out.
February 27, 20197 yr 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: This organization literally destroyed my optimism in one fair swoop and I hate it man. I need an under-the-radar strike of Harper for it to come back and I do think there is some small chance they could pull it off. Im with ya dude. This org is a fuckin' joke right now.
February 27, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: This organization literally destroyed my optimism in one fair swoop and I hate it man. I need an under-the-radar strike of Harper for it to come back and I do think there is some small chance they could pull it off. Yeah my optimism is gone, as is my excitement for the season and overall will to live.
February 27, 20197 yr I’m just going to pretend Engel is Harper. He’ll forget how to hit if we sign him anyway. WE GOT HARPER!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!
February 27, 20197 yr Just now, black jack said: I’m just going to pretend Engel is Harper. He’ll forget how to hit if we sign him anyway. WE GOT HARPER!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!! In a bizarre turn of events the White Sox sign Harper. In a corresponding move, Engel is designated for assignment. Harper puts up career lows the next three years and picks up his option because nobody wants to pay for a hitter batting .220 with 15 home runs and 60 rbis. Engel was claimed by the Padres. Engel average for the past three seasons was .300/ 20 HRS/ 80 RBS/ 60 SB/ 8 Robbed Homeruns/ 3 gold gloves
February 27, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Peacock Wrestler said: In a bizarre turn of events the White Sox sign Harper. In a corresponding move, Engel is designated for assignment. Harper puts up career lows the next three years and picks up his option because nobody wants to pay for a hitter batting .220 with 15 home runs and 60 rbis. Engel was claimed by the Padres. Engel average for the past three seasons was .300/ 20 HRS/ 80 RBS/ 60 SB/ 8 Robbed Homeruns/ 3 gold gloves Sounds about right
February 27, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Sounds about right Yup. If a player signs or is traded here they become worse just by putting on the Sox uniform. There is no guarantee that Tatis would've ever ascended to this level had he not been traded for Shields. Similarly,a player becomes instantly better upon leaving the organization. Edited February 27, 20197 yr by Jack Parkman
February 27, 20197 yr I know we are the diehards and we take this harder than most, but I do truly wonder if the sox realize the blowback they will receive. like will it show up in the turnstyles? Will it matter? Or is this just a small group of over excited fans like us that are pissed, but still will go to 5-10 games because we love baseball in general? All I can say is that it truly sucks. baseball is basically the only sport I follow balls to the wall.. and now taking my team away from me? it hurts. I know for me, if they landed one of the two big fish I was looking at a partial season ticket plan again.. now I'm just going to pick 2-3 Scout Seats games and enjoy my time, but can't say I care at all about the outcome of the game or even the sox at all. i'll be there for baseball, not the sox.
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