February 4, 20197 yr 48 minutes ago, Roughneck said: Agree to disagree here. It took Moncada hitting .235 for him to put up an OBP 15 points lower than Jay. I don't think he will win any batting titles, but Yoan will improve on that average. The only way I see anyone predicting Jay to get on base more is either expecting a fluke fountain-of-youth type season from him or just thinking in general that Yoan is a bust and won't improve over his age 23 season. Bingo. Great post.
February 4, 20197 yr Because it hasn't been said in a little bit... I have a feeling something will happen soon!
February 4, 20197 yr 41 minutes ago, greg775 said: Guys, Jon Jay is not a productive big league ballplayer. Anderson and Moncada are productive. I know you don' t care about KC fans but they laugh at the mention of Jon Jay. Suffice it to say he was Juan Pierre-like, Dwyane Wise-like in terms of what fans thought of him here. My hope is he is a good influence with his pal, Manny, but gets less than 200 at bats. You tell me why Jon Jay should even beat out Engel? Tell me all about Joakim Soria
February 4, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Because it hasn't been said in a little bit... I have a feeling something will happen soon! Another Duck Boat Parade?
February 4, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, Roughneck said: Agree to disagree here. It took Moncada hitting .235 for him to put up an OBP 15 points lower than Jay. I don't think he will win any batting titles, but Yoan will improve on that average. The only way I see anyone predicting Jay to get on base more is either expecting a fluke fountain-of-youth type season from him or just thinking in general that Yoan is a bust and won't improve over his age 23 season. I think part of it will be Jay will be better in a part time role so his will improve. I don't think Moncada will change his strikeout ways and while he will improve in power and other aspects of the game I don't think he will be a great OBP guy. So he won't be a bust but OBP will be his weakness.
February 4, 20197 yr 19 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Another Duck Boat Parade? What do you mean? Not familiar with a duck boat parade.
February 4, 20197 yr Just a random thought, and maybe it's been mentioned before, but what if Machado was waiting for Arenado's arb deal to be announced? Seems like a really good number to counter teams with in negotiations.
February 4, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: What do you mean? Not familiar with a duck boat parade. then thankfully you are not a New England Patriots fan.
February 5, 20197 yr 13 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Just a random thought, and maybe it's been mentioned before, but what if Machado was waiting for Arenado's arb deal to be announced? Seems like a really good number to counter teams with in negotiations. Stop it. People aren't allowed to make sense on this board.
February 5, 20197 yr 37 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Tell me all about Joakim Soria Soria did OK as a Sox. My feeling is he got fixed by Coop. I really hope we can flip Jay as soon as possible. Nobody took me up on my question when I asked folks to name one thing he does well. I won't rip him any more, but his stats scream that he's not a productive player. I'd rather have Engel.
February 5, 20197 yr 19 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: What do you mean? Not familiar with a duck boat parade. Kris Dunn does
February 5, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, Goober said: Lololol Keith law ranked Sox as 13th best farm system I don't think he's that far off from reality. I could buy that. After Eloy it isn't that good.
February 5, 20197 yr 29 minutes ago, ptatc said: I think part of it will be Jay will be better in a part time role so his will improve. I don't think Moncada will change his strikeout ways and while he will improve in power and other aspects of the game I don't think he will be a great OBP guy. So he won't be a bust but OBP will be his weakness. I don't think that Moncada can improve his game much without improving the strikeout part.
February 5, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I don't think he's that far off from reality. I could buy that. After Eloy it isn't that good. Did Kopech, Cease, Madrigal, Robert, Dunning, Collins, Rutherford, etc die?
February 5, 20197 yr 16 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Did Kopech, Cease, Madrigal, Robert, Dunning, Collins, Rutherford, etc die? Collins and Rutherford are pretty garbage prospects. Let's be honest, a career .220 or so minor league hitter and a guy with like 10 homeruns in 3 seasons aren't very exciting prospects Edited February 5, 20197 yr by Whitesoxa6
February 5, 20197 yr 5 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Collins and Rutherford are pretty garbage prospects. Let's be honest, a career .220 or so minor league hitter and a guy with like 10 homeruns both in 3 seasons aren't very exciting prospects Bad post from a bad poster...
February 5, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Collins and Rutherford are pretty garbage prospects. Let's be honest, a career .220 or so minor league hitter and a guy with like 10 homeruns in 3 seasons aren't very exciting prospects Speaking of not very exciting and garbage...
February 5, 20197 yr Just now, southsider2k5 said: Speaking of not very exciting and garbage... Find me one 1B/DH who hit .230 and struck out 30% of the time in the minors who became a better than average MLB player
February 5, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Find me one 1B/DH who hit .230 and struck out 30% of the time in the minors who became a better than average MLB player So unless you can become a better than average player, you are a garbage prospect. Makes perfect sense.
February 5, 20197 yr 48 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Just a random thought, and maybe it's been mentioned before, but what if Machado was waiting for Arenado's arb deal to be announced? Seems like a really good number to counter teams with in negotiations. He already settled at 26 million a couple days ago
February 5, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: So unless you can become a better than average player, you are a garbage prospect. Makes perfect sense. Usually to be a good prospect, you have to show upside of becoming an average major leaguer. A 1B/DH who hits .230 in the low minors is garbage. There's no way he's ever above a .220 hitter in the majors at this rate but I'd love to be proven wrong
February 5, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Usually to be a good prospect, you have to show upside of becoming an average major leaguer. A 1B/DH who hits .230 in the low minors is garbage. There's no way he's ever above a .220 hitter in the majors at this rate but I'd love to be proven wrong He also walks 20% of the time, but if you want to judge a prospect entirely on their batting average that’s on you.
February 5, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: He also walks 20% of the time, but if you want to judge a prospect entirely on their batting average that’s on you. Nobody who hits .230 in the minors and strikes out at a 30% clip is going to come close to that number in the majors. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but nobody has yet to name a good major league 1b/Dh that had close to the pathetic career stats that Collins has in the minors
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