August 2, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, poppysox said: I have the same take on this as you do. Perhaps Hahn will let Jose test free agency then resign him for a short and relatively cheap window while we wait for Vaughn. Yeah I think this means they're not going to overpay for him. If Jose is back next year, it'll be a really cheap one year deal.
August 2, 20196 yr I voted yes because I think he will be back. I don’t see our front office being smart enough to move on. If the question was SHOULD Jose be back I would have answered no. A DH that cant maintain an .800 OPS just isn’t useful and I won’t be shocked to see him to continue to regress. He looks/moves much older than he is. At best I’d offer Jose something like 2/$12M and tell him to find a better offer... Edited August 2, 20196 yr by TheFutureIsNear
August 2, 20196 yr Jose goes on a run hitting well...crickets. Jose struggles...I told you he sucks! He's in a slump. He'll rebound...then probably slump again...then rebound. He does the same thing almost every year.
August 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, poppysox said: Better make it 10 years. In 8 years he will still be competing for MVP by the looks of him. And in 15 years, the White Sox will trade Gio Gonzalez' son to get Trout for their Wild Card push.
August 2, 20196 yr Get ready for many threads of this type over the next two months. The games are not going to be relevant other than those wanting a tank.
August 2, 20196 yr 58 minutes ago, poppysox said: Get ready for many threads of this type over the next two months. The games are not going to be relevant other than those wanting a tank. How many more threads could Ron possibly make about the same topic? Edited August 2, 20196 yr by Sleepy Harold
August 2, 20196 yr 50 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: How man more threads could Ron possibly make about the same topic? I just merged them all here. ?
August 2, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, knightni said: I just merged them all here. ? This is glorious. Thank you
August 2, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, knightni said: I just merged them all here. ? All the garbage in one can
August 2, 20196 yr I think the fact that they aren't going to extend him is hopefully a good sign that they're not going to give him some horseshit deal like 2/$25M.
August 2, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I think the fact that they aren't going to extend him is hopefully a good sign that they're not going to give him some horseshit deal like 2/$25M. Right. It's going to be pretty cheap. I'm thinking like 1 year/$8 mill tops.
August 2, 20196 yr Don’t get me wrong, making several threads is overkill...but I do find it very odd that a lot of people seem to be in denial that Jose just flat out isn’t a good hitter anymore. At what point are people willing to call it what it is? We’re over 1000 straight PA’s now
August 2, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Don’t get me wrong, making several threads is overkill...but I do find it very odd that a lot of people seem to be in denial that Jose just flat out isn’t a good hitter anymore. At what point are people willing to call it what it is? We’re over 1000 straight PA’s now A lot of people are coming to that realization now during this horrid stretch. People give Ron shit because he's been saying this for like 4 years now. It reminds me of my dad and uncle who have always said Abreu sucks, even though it hasn't always been true. Edited August 2, 20196 yr by soxfan2014
August 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, NWINFan said: I really don't see the point of this thread. If Ron can keep his Abreu opinions here it serves good purpose.
August 2, 20196 yr Just now, raBBit said: If Ron can keep his Abreu opinions here it serves good purpose. When NWINFan wrote that, he was responding in a newly created thread by Ron, not the superthread that we just merged
August 2, 20196 yr Just now, soxfan2014 said: A lot of people are coming to that realization now during this horrid stretch. People give Ron shit because he's been saying this for like 4 years now. It reminds me of my dad and uncle who have always said Abreu sucks, even though it hasn't always been true. No of course Jose hasn’t sucked for 4 years. Anyone who was complaining about him before the all-star break last year was probably out of line. Jose was a very good/all-star level bat and seems like 1 hell of a nice person...but all good things must come to an end, and it seems like we are there/if not really close with Jose.
August 2, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Ron, did Jose Abreu sleep with your girlfriend? That would be the only thing he hit in the last 3 weeks.
August 2, 20196 yr 32 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: When NWINFan wrote that, he was responding in a newly created thread by Ron, not the superthread that we just merged Imagine how super the superthread would be if it also included all of the deleted ones!
August 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, hogan873 said: Jose goes on a run hitting well...crickets. Jose struggles...I told you he sucks! He's in a slump. He'll rebound...then probably slump again...then rebound. He does the same thing almost every year. So fucking true. At some point in the future those slumps won’t end, but right now it’s impossible to declare that.
August 2, 20196 yr 31 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: So fucking true. At some point in the future those slumps won’t end, but right now it’s impossible to declare that. A 1004 PA slump? That’s just being delusional...
August 2, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: A 1004 PA slump? That’s just being delusional... 103 XBH In that slump. That is an XBH better than 1 every 10 ABs. Doesn't seem like to terrible of a slump.
August 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Don’t get me wrong, making several threads is overkill...but I do find it very odd that a lot of people seem to be in denial that Jose just flat out isn’t a good hitter anymore. At what point are people willing to call it what it is? We’re over 1000 straight PA’s now It's been a helluva "slump". Over his last 994 PA he has produced 1.5 fWAR mostly based off a very mediocre slash line around a 105 wRC+. That's Yolmer territory for value. In fact, because he can actually man an important defensive position over the same time frame Yolmer has been worth 2.1 fWAR. Hopefully that helps put it into perspective that Jose Abreu's value is almost 100% in his bat. And his bat no longer is any good.
August 2, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: It's been a helluva "slump". Over his last 994 PA he has produced 1.5 fWAR mostly based off a very mediocre slash line around a 105 wRC+. That's Yolmer territory for value. In fact, because he can actually man an important defensive position over the same time frame Yolmer has been worth 2.1 fWAR. Hopefully that helps put it into perspective that Jose Abreu's value is almost 100% in his bat. And his bat no longer is any good. Do you think Yolmer has been a better, more impactful player over the last 2 seasons? Because in reality a replacement level player the Sox have found for Yolmer is maybe, Goins? Saladino? Seems like a reasonably talented substitute is easy to find. For Abreu, well look at their recent options at DH/1B, Yonder, Palka, Reed, Davidson, LaRoche. The question I keep asking about getting rid of Abreu remains, who are you going to replace him with that is better?
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