November 20, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, fathom said: Sherman brings up idea of JA Happ and pitching prospect to the Sox https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/j-a-happ-trade-rumblings-part-of-yankees-gerrit-cole-puzzle/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Yes let’s help another team get elite talent please
November 20, 20196 yr 44 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: With Colome at around 10 million and Herrera at 8, I am not sure we go beyond a 3-5 million reliever. Why not? Colome has 1 year of control and the payroll is so low.
November 20, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, bmags said: Yes let’s help another team get elite talent please I mean, the Sox aren't going to sign him (I'd love to come back and eat crow because of this comment 2 months from now lol).
November 20, 20196 yr 11 minutes ago, bmags said: Yes let’s help another team get elite talent please The money will be spent!
November 20, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: I mean, the Sox aren't going to sign him (I'd love to come back and eat crow because of this comment 2 months from now lol). We still shouldn’t help the Yankees get him.
November 20, 20196 yr 9 hours ago, fathom said: Sherman brings up idea of JA Happ and pitching prospect to the Sox https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/j-a-happ-trade-rumblings-part-of-yankees-gerrit-cole-puzzle/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth).
November 20, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, Flash said: Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth). Nothing personal, but I would hate this trade. Tauchman may be a decent player, but the jury is still out on him and Statcast believes he overachieved last year. Plus he’s almost 29. And to get him and a guy who is redundant with Collins, we have to weaken the pitching staff, waste some of our financial flexibility, and improve the chances of the Yankees getting Cole. Just doesn’t make any sense to me.
November 20, 20196 yr 31 minutes ago, Flash said: Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth). You do realize Tauchman is already 28...? I guess Hahn would like the local boy comes home angle...Fremd, Palatine, Bradley, but generally trading high upside, cost-controlled starting pitchers for more expensive veteran 4/5 starters doesn’t work out well. If we were making 3 big moves this offseason to go with it, maybe. By the time we actually need Happ, he’ll be yet one more year removed from his prime. And Tauchman was a low 700s OPS guy in 2015-16...it wasn’t until Albuquerque, a hitter’s paradise not unlike Charlotte, that he really took off. He might be a late bloomer, but he could just as easily be in a one year flash in the pan.
November 20, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nothing personal, but I would hate this trade. Tauchman may be a decent player, but the jury is still out on him and Statcast believes he overachieved last year. Plus he’s almost 29. And to get him and a guy who is redundant with Collins, we have to weaken the pitching staff, waste some of our financial flexibility, and improve the chances of the Yankees getting Cole. Just doesn’t make any sense to me. And give up a solid SP and bullpen arm, both with considerable upside, and both cheap and controllable. Gross.
November 20, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Flash said: Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth). This makes me want to go "ewwy"
November 20, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Flash said: Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth). DISGUSTING!
November 20, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, Flash said: Tie Tauchman to Happ and Yanks eat $3M and maybe throw in Bird. We send Lopez and Fry. We solve for LH RF who can play defense and mash plus 4-5 starter plus LH bat off bench or DH (Bird might not be ready to take field at 1B but if he is, he's great flexibility/depth). How dare you.
November 20, 20196 yr Author As I sit and think about pitching options and I am still in favor of no qualifying offers, losing my target of Odorizzi hurts. It looks like we keep Kopech down to manage innings(regain year also). Gio, Lopez, Cease are in. So two likely additions. I advocated that in my originating this thread post with the second being a swing guy or tradeable as other guys get healthy. What is clear is they need to be healthy at the start of the season which is why I don't advocate guys like Wood or other injury question marks. I think we want healthyish, possibly left handed, cheapish, good clubhouse, short term deal etc. By midseason, this guy can go to the pen as Kopech, Rodon, Dunning or others return. He could come back if injuries or innings limits are reached. IE this guy kinda looks like a better Santiago. I worry re homer prone though his numbers aren't bad and early in the year with cold weather the ball isn't jumping. In fact his numbers of less than one hr per nine is way better than almost anyone on our team not named Bummer. For cheap what about the unexciting but actually fairly competent #5/swing man Gio Gonzalez. You are not going to sign a really good player if you are competing with other clubs and that is their role. Last year he signed for two million and provided 1.7 WAR.
November 20, 20196 yr 52 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: As I sit and think about pitching options and I am still in favor of no qualifying offers, losing my target of Odorizzi hurts. It looks like we keep Kopech down to manage innings(regain year also). Gio, Lopez, Cease are in. So two likely additions. I advocated that in my originating this thread post with the second being a swing guy or tradeable as other guys get healthy. What is clear is they need to be healthy at the start of the season which is why I don't advocate guys like Wood or other injury question marks. I think we want healthyish, possibly left handed, cheapish, good clubhouse, short term deal etc. By midseason, this guy can go to the pen as Kopech, Rodon, Dunning or others return. He could come back if injuries or innings limits are reached. IE this guy kinda looks like a better Santiago. I worry re homer prone though his numbers aren't bad and early in the year with cold weather the ball isn't jumping. In fact his numbers of less than one hr per nine is way better than almost anyone on our team not named Bummer. For cheap what about the unexciting but actually fairly competent #5/swing man Gio Gonzalez. You are not going to sign a really good player if you are competing with other clubs and that is their role. Last year he signed for two million and provided 1.7 WAR. I agree with the swing man idea. Smyly, Pomeranz, salary dump (plus interesting enough spect or two) of Rich Hill are some ideas off the top of my head. Edited November 20, 20196 yr by soxfan2014
November 21, 20196 yr Could see Sox putting a claim in on Nestor Cortes. Two options remaining and Sox are so thin on LHP.
November 21, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Could see Sox putting a claim in on Nestor Cortes. Two options remaining and Sox are so thin on LHP. Plus he's Cuban so we have to keep the tradition going.
November 21, 20196 yr 15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Could see Sox putting a claim in on Nestor Cortes. Two options remaining and Sox are so thin on LHP. He also dominated the Sox in a game last season. I’d be all for it just for depth if nothing else.
November 21, 20196 yr Trade: Carson Fulmer for Travis Shaw. LH hitter that can play 3B, 2B, and 1B with some pop. Has had prior success but struggled in 2019. Brewers seem to be done with him so a flyer on Fulmer could be a fair swap. Sign: Zack Wheeler- Everyone’s obvious top signing that is realistic for the Sox. 5/105 Nick Castellanos- I know a lot of people have issues with his D in RF, but he’s still young and made drastic improvements from year 1 to year 2 at a new position. If he can simply be league average defensively his bat will play more than enough to justify the contract. 4/66 Brad Bach and Arodys Vizcaino- 2 bounce back relief candidates to take a chance on to stabilize the pen. 1/5 for both. Josh Lindblom- Potential great value to eat innings as a 5th starter or could be a useful pen arm. The model for success for coming back from overseas is there. 2/7.5 C- McCann 1B- Abreu 2B- Madrigal 3B- Moncada SS- TA LF- Eloy CF- Robert RF- Castellanos DH- Collins Bench- Shaw, Luery, Mendick, ?(maybe another C or a better RH DH platoon) Gio Wheeler Cease Lopez Lindblom/Kopech Frye Bach Marshall Cordero Vizciano Bummer Colome About $128M for payroll
November 21, 20196 yr Author We sign my number one target and though I had an option, my total 4/76 was pretty close!!! Great day.
November 21, 20196 yr Need a RF and the offense is set, I think our bench will be good enough too. Keep in mind we still have some trade fodder, a big trade is possible to set up our pitching and bullpen too!
November 21, 20196 yr not gonna happen, but my Christmas wish list is to sign Rendon, slide Moncada to RF and then sign Wheeler. Wait one year, and then go out and trade a few of your better minor league guys for the equivalent of what Cole was to the Astros or Sale was for the BoSox. Top ACE you traded for, Giolito, Wheeler, Kopech, Cease Robert, Moncada, Rendon, Eloy, Abreu, Grandal, (DH - EE??), Timmy, Madrigal
November 22, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: Does Kopech start the season on the big club? No, the rotation will be Giolito, Wheeler, Lopez, Hill, Cease.
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