December 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, zisk said: Just remember that JP will hit .217 with 12 homers for us his first year. When we trade for some one they always suck their first season. We are overdue for a huge win.
December 4, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, poppysox said: We are overdue for a huge win. That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor.
December 4, 20196 yr Just now, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. What was Jose Quintana?
December 4, 20196 yr 20 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. James McCann
December 4, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. Bummer
December 4, 20196 yr Does losing on Wheeler end our pursuit of Joc? The latter seems heavily predicated on thinking we can make the playoffs in '20, and I don't see it without a high-end SP signing or some really great prospect/youth development luck
December 4, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, gusguyman said: Does losing on Wheeler end our pursuit of Joc? The latter seems heavily predicated on thinking we can make the playoffs in '20, and I don't see it without a high-end SP signing or some really great prospect/youth development luck Probably. I'm thinking that they just go for someone like Puig at this point.
December 4, 20196 yr I hope that the Sox get creative with problem-solving the rotation instead of throwing money at it in free agency. KennyGM, for all his faults, was pretty good at finding value in the trade market. Aside from Cole and Strasburg, the free agent pitching options aren't worth their price tags, and unfortunately, I don't know enough about the rest of the league to know who is worth what and who would be available to even speculate.
December 4, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: I hope that the Sox get creative with problem-solving the rotation instead of throwing money at it in free agency. KennyGM, for all his faults, was pretty good at finding value in the trade market. Aside from Cole and Strasburg, the free agent pitching options aren't worth their price tags, and unfortunately, I don't know enough about the rest of the league to know who is worth what and who would be available to even speculate. Just my guess: Ryu: 20-25M AAV on a 3-4 year deal Keuchel: 18-22M AAV on a 3 year deal Bumgarner: 20-25M AAV on a 4-5 year deal I'd pass on all of them at that price, and Ryu/Keuchel is a HARD pass.
December 4, 20196 yr If the Sox get Joc who platoons with him? He is wretched against same handed pitchers. I'd take him, but hope the Sox don't give up someone like A-Bum for him either.
December 4, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, kwolf68 said: If the Sox get Joc who platoons with him? He is wretched against same handed pitchers. I'd take him, but hope the Sox don't give up someone like A-Bum for him either. Leury with some Engel sprinkled in. Both hit LHP well.
December 4, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: What was Jose Quintana? A huge contributor many years ago.
December 4, 20196 yr 22 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Leury with some Engel sprinkled in. Both hit LHP well. I would be doing Engel with some Leury sprinkled in. Defense is better and he keeps his head in the game. Actually starting to hit a little as well.
December 4, 20196 yr I do not want to give up any assets on a one year player. However, I might deal with the Dodgers for Joc if you are allowed to find out what it would take to extend him. Maybe spread some of the Wheeler allocation that direction. Anyone know who his agent is?
December 5, 20196 yr On 12/4/2019 at 10:59 AM, Jose Abreu said: James McCann Reading all the hating on McCann reminds me so much of all the hate on Quintana early with the Sox. I must've heard the phrase " smoke and mirrors" more in that time frame than I will hear it for the rest of my days.
December 5, 20196 yr On 12/4/2019 at 11:43 AM, cjgalloway said: Joc rumors come.. We lose Manny... Joc rumors come.. We lose Wheeler. Sox don't wanna wear a Joc.
December 9, 20196 yr 17 minutes ago, aeichhor said: I like how Pollock and Joc are mentioned in the same tweet. One guy has value and the other guy has none. Who wants the remaining 3 years and $42 million dollar contract for the 32 year old outfielder who had elbow surgery last year?
December 9, 20196 yr 31 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: I like how Pollock and Joc are mentioned in the same tweet. One guy has value and the other guy has none. Who wants the remaining 3 years and $42 million dollar contract for the 32 year old outfielder who had elbow surgery last year? Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on?
December 9, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on? $20M over 3 years for Pollock could be worth the risk. If he stayed healthy, he'd be worth it. Big if, though.
December 9, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on? I wouldn’t be targeting aging outfielders with injury concerns so I would pass regardless.
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