17 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Why the FUCK is KW once again a front man this offseason? Good lord. 

 

13 minutes ago, mqr said:

Why would the president of baseball operations not be at the Winter Meetings?

 

Who said KW is the front man?

1 minute ago, asindc said:

 

 

Who said KW is the front man?

No one. Someone just made the observation that he showed up. 

Just now, mqr said:

No one. Someone just made the observation that he showed up. 

My apology, I quoted you just for context.  The question was meant for chitownsportsfan. 

15 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

This guy and Clinton Cole are the two biggest frauds on Twitter.

Don’t agree with this take.  Cole’s futuresox content is great. 

3 minutes ago, asindc said:

My apology, I quoted you just for context.  The question was meant for chitownsportsfan. 

JR sets up his orgs with "two frontmen" that way the fans can take turns blaming the other guy.   KW should have been shitcanned long ago.  That he's still a mouthpiece and a visible face of the Org is 100% the stagnation of JR as an owner in the last 30 years.  He is old, doesn't want to fire his buddies, and is content to make the guaranteed profit from his cartels.

The Bulls, to a large extent, operate the same way.

If the reports are true that the Sox and Cubs are in competition to sign Keuchel and Castellanos, do the White Sox lose on both guys unless they substantially beat the Cubs Offers ?   If so, that  seems like a terrible no-win situation  for Rick,Kenny and Jerry. ...either over pay substantially or lose out on the players.

19 minutes ago, tray said:

If the reports are true that the Sox and Cubs are in competition to sign Keuchel and Castellanos, do the White Sox lose on both guys unless they substantially beat the Cubs Offers ?   If so, that  seems like a terrible no-win situation  for Rick,Kenny and Jerry. ...either over pay substantially or lose out on the players.

Thought the Cubs had no money to sign any free agents? They are right against the cap.

3 minutes ago, NotHahn said:

Thought the Cubs had no money to sign any free agents? They are right against the cap.

For sure.  Where’s that coming from?

31 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

JR sets up his orgs with "two frontmen" that way the fans can take turns blaming the other guy.   KW should have been shitcanned long ago.  That he's still a mouthpiece and a visible face of the Org is 100% the stagnation of JR as an owner in the last 30 years.  He is old, doesn't want to fire his buddies, and is content to make the guaranteed profit from his cartels.

The Bulls, to a large extent, operate the same way.

Who is Medellin, Cali and Sinaloa?  KW as Pablo Escobar and Hahn as El Chapo?

3 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

For sure.  Where’s that coming from?

They've been crying poor since last offseason. Rumors on twitter is that they are telling FA they need to clear payroll before adding anyone. Kind of crazy just how far they are going to say they can't afford anything. Supposedly they went over 100% on the projected budget for Wrigley renovations? Almost seems ridiculous.

 

Aww yeah inject this hot stove action into my veins

6 minutes ago, Orlando said:

 

That's been my impression as well. I think they went all-in on Grandal and Wheeler with the intention to make some minor deals or signings to fill out the backend of the rotation plus RF. Unfortunately, Wheeler went to the Phillies and they don't know how to proceed now.

Honestly, if they're not going to try for Rendon and Cole they might as well sign a cheaper backend starter (Keuchel I guess at this point since Bumgarner wants $100 mil and the Sox aren't linked to Ryu) and maybe Calhoun or something and see what happens in the rest of the year with Kopech, Cease, Rodon and any minor league starters of interest. 2020 won't be a competitive year without Cole/Rendon.

I think trading any of their top prospects at this point of the rebuild would be a HUGE mistake.

17 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

For sure.  Where’s that coming from?

 

Not that hes the greatest source. Also

 Cubs' 2020 luxury tax payroll to be $219.8 million — quite a bit over the $208 million luxury tax. And that's not even taking into account any offseason moves via trade or free agency.

Just now, almagest said:

That's been my impression as well. I think they went all-in on Grandal and Wheeler with the intention to make some minor deals or signings to fill out the backend of the rotation plus RF. Unfortunately, Wheeler went to the Phillies and they don't know how to proceed now.

Honestly, if they're not going to try for Rendon and Cole they might as well sign a cheaper backend starter (Keuchel I guess at this point since Bumgarner wants $100 mil and the Sox aren't linked to Ryu) and maybe Calhoun or something and see what happens in the rest of the year with Kopech, Cease, Rodon and any minor league starters of interest. 2020 won't be a competitive year without Cole/Rendon.

I think trading any of their top prospects at this point of the rebuild would be a HUGE mistake.

They’re all in to compete for 2020

1 minute ago, fathom said:

They’re all in to compete for 2020

Then they'd better sign Cole or Rendon, or both.

3 minutes ago, almagest said:

That's been my impression as well. I think they went all-in on Grandal and Wheeler with the intention to make some minor deals or signings to fill out the backend of the rotation plus RF. Unfortunately, Wheeler went to the Phillies and they don't know how to proceed now.

Honestly, if they're not going to try for Rendon and Cole they might as well sign a cheaper backend starter (Keuchel I guess at this point since Bumgarner wants $100 mil and the Sox aren't linked to Ryu) and maybe Calhoun or something and see what happens in the rest of the year with Kopech, Cease, Rodon and any minor league starters of interest. 2020 won't be a competitive year without Cole/Rendon.

 I think trading any of their top prospects at this point of the rebuild would be a HUGE mistake.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

Just now, almagest said:

That's been my impression as well. I think they went all-in on Grandal and Wheeler with the intention to make some minor deals or signings to fill out the backend of the rotation plus RF. Unfortunately, Wheeler went to the Phillies and they don't know how to proceed now.

Honestly, if they're not going to try for Rendon and Cole they might as well sign a cheaper backend starter (Keuchel I guess at this point since Bumgarner wants $100 mil and the Sox aren't linked to Ryu) and maybe Calhoun or something and see what happens in the rest of the year with Kopech, Cease, Rodon and any minor league starters of interest. 2020 won't be a competitive year without Cole/Rendon.

I think trading any of their top prospects at this point of the rebuild would be a HUGE mistake.

I feel like Castellanos is their "guy" right now. It certainly feels like the Sox had specific players targeted and are 1/2 right now.

2 minutes ago, mqr said:

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

About what? We haven't heard anything else credible besides random Twitter morons and Marcell Ozuna.

3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I feel like Castellanos is their "guy" right now. It certainly feels like the Sox had specific players targeted and are 1/2 right now.

I don’t think the Sox are targeting any Boras guys. 

1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said:

I think Kinander has the same sources as @raBBit

And I don't mean that as a knock. This just seems very similar to what raBBit was tweeting this morning.

He doesn't.

Feeling very pessimistic about this week.

2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I feel like Castellanos is their "guy" right now. It certainly feels like the Sox had specific players targeted and are 1/2 right now.

It could be, but Castellanos is a Boras client. I assume his timeline will drag out a bit since he's not Cole or Strasburg.

Just now, Dick Allen said:

I don’t think the Sox are targeting any Boras guys. 

Yup.