3 minutes ago, Soxnfins said:

All a ploy to get the Dodgers to give us Joc imo

The Dodgers do not need the White Sox for nothing 

i wouldn’t hate the move. But it does tell us that they aren’t trying to win next year. 

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Like Fulmer + Gonzalez/Rutherford feels like the right return for me.  Can't see how you'd give up more than that.  

Yea. I don't think I'd be upset with a return like that. Just such an underwhelming move.

1 minute ago, DirtySox said:

Yea. I don't think I'd be upset with a return like that. Just such an underwhelming move.

I agree.  Definitely not excited about it, even if the return is something like that or less. 

1 minute ago, MyNamesRod said:

i wouldn’t hate the move. But it does tell us that they aren’t trying to win next year. 

The epiphany is...they aren’t trying to win period! Mint $, pretend to try (like the cheapskate who reaches for his wallet and pretends he’s willing to pay), and keep going.

3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Like Fulmer + Gonzalez/Rutherford feels like the right return for me.  Can't see how you'd give up more than that.  

Given that Mazara is going to be a 2nd year arb player this year, those guys already seem a little heavy to me. A dip in production next year and he's a non-tender candidate.

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

I agree.  Definitely not excited about it, even if the return is something like that or less. 

I don’t like this move, but if it happens, I’ll try to reserve judgment until I see how the entire offseason unfolds. If it means we spend big on pitching, I’ll be fine with it. 

Serious question. Is Mazara an upgrade over Leury? 

7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Like Fulmer + Gonzalez/Rutherford feels like the right return for me.  Can't see how you'd give up more than that.  

Yea I'd be fine with that (moreso Gonzalez than Rutherford) Otherwise... no.

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by SoxAce

I’d rather sign Calhoun. Like by a lot. 

.844 OPS against RHP last year. Find him a platoon partner.

2016 this guy was a consensus top 20 prospect.BP had him at 5. His manager was on MLBN yesterday and said it was pretty much put up or shut up time for him.will only be 25. As we saw, can hit it a mile. Worth the gamble if it is for what some  have speculated. But I can also see why this would be kind of a downer for some.

Just now, soxfan3530 said:

Serious question. Is Mazara an upgrade over Leury? 

Against RHP yes.  They form a somewhat decent platoon I guess. 

Shittiest thing about Mazara is his defense.  

Just now, SoxAce said:

Yea I'd be fine with that. Otherwise... no.

I’m guessing Stiever and Rutherford 

1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said:

Serious question. Is Mazara an upgrade over Leury? 

Yes offensively. More power. 

 

Just now, fathom said:

I’m guessing Stiever and Rutherford 

That would be a "Rick Hahn Special" level of Hell No.

19 HRs in 115 games.  Only 24.  

 

I can get on board with this. 

1 minute ago, mqr said:

I’d rather sign Calhoun. Like by a lot. 

I would not. Both aren’t any good so why not grab the guy that has a small chance of breaking out? Calhoun isn’t going to take the Sox to the playoffs so there’s no point. 

Walker for Mazara is something I would be okay(as in not wanting to chase down some xanax with some scotch) with. He can DH against righties. They still need a real outfielder though.

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by GermanSoxFan

Just now, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Similar response here. This guy is a 2nd year arbitration eligible player who we might well let go after 1 year because in 2021 he'd make $7-$8 million.

Anytime you can add an overhyped 1 WAR player you do it.  He's not better than Leury.

Getting smoky in here...

2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Just stop!!

Like everyone said, it depends who we give up. Straight up for Fulmer and either Basabe, Adolfo, or Rutherford(which I hope not) may be a fair deal. But even so like I said, we have this player in our minor league system, Rutherford may be able to duplicate Mazara.