There is no reason to dislike Gio Gonzalez as a fifth starter for likely half a year.

As a 5 starter he is ok (projected for 1.5 war). 

 

4 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said:

As a 5 starter he is ok (projected for 1.5 war). 

 

Add that to considerations of what our fifth starter position amounted to in war last year. ?

He stands a fair chance of being better than a “fifth starter”

55 minutes ago, fathom said:

I will believe they view him as MLB starting caliber when I see it

I thought we were talking about DH

People keep assuming Gio will only start for half a season but if Lopez doesn’t step up he’s the one sent the pen or if Cease doesn’t progress he’s the one sent back to Charlotte when Kopech comes up.

Unlike a guy like Rich Hill, Walker or Wood, Gio is good enough and durable enough to pitch a full season as the 4th starter.

I like this move. He is our #5 until Kopech comes up. And if he is still healthy and performing well at that point, he can either become a long reliever for us, or take Lopez's spotin the rotation if he is outpitching him.

Now go sign Ryu and Castellanos and they can give the Indians and Twinkies a run for their money in the division.

22 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

People keep assuming Gio will only start for half a season but if Lopez doesn’t step up he’s the one sent the pen or if Cease doesn’t progress he’s the one sent back to Charlotte when Kopech comes up.

Unlike a guy like Rich Hill, Walker or Wood, Gio is good enough and durable enough to pitch a full season as the 4th starter.

Wow, short leash you're giving Cease.

5 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

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Some of you are so miserable it's tough to read.

Do yourself the favor and put that clown on ignore.  His next post that adds anything of value will be his first.

4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I can see you tried just reading the 1st few posts then commenting instead of your usual way of reading the whole thread.  LOL you get burned either way when you are late to the news.

Fathom already said it's better upon review of his stats.  I was going to suggest he then delete his 1st post , decided not too . Oh well

Normally I hold off if I’m late to the party, but in this case I was surprised by the initial reactions by some posters I generally agree.  

4 hours ago, Orlando said:

 

Not sure how injury would prevent leadership, but Bruce is gonna Bruce...

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Such as?  They play about 2/3 of their games against RHP so don’t say McCann.

Grandal, who is supposedly only catching about 100 of the games. Having him rot on the bench when he's not catching would be a horrible misuse of resources 

This seems like the definition of cromulence.

40 minutes ago, Sarava said:

Wow, short leash you're giving Cease.

Not at all. If by June when Kopech is knocking on the door and Gio is having a 4 ERA and Cease’s ERA is still approaching 6, do you send Gio to the pen or send Cease down to work on his game?

19 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

This seems like the definition of cromulence.

bog standard 5th starter.

5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

bog standard 5th starter.

Did somebody say Bog?

Here's the quick rundown

 

>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

I'm fine with this signing.... a veteran arm who will hopefully eat up innings and provide leadership and depth.

His career has now gone full circle.  

9 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

Did somebody say Bog?

Here's the quick rundown

 

>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

No more drugs for you tonight.

59 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

This seems like the definition of cromulence.

Where have you been Heads...haven't seen that word used in months.

 

 

1 hour ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Not at all. If by June when Kopech is knocking on the door and Gio is having a 4 ERA and Cease’s ERA is still approaching 6, do you send Gio to the pen or send Cease down to work on his game?

I think it depends a lot more on Cease's control than his era. 

30 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:

I think it depends a lot more on Cease's control than his era. 

Struggling is struggling, unless his ERA is inflated due to some uncommon fluke. Sox are in a position to compete next year and they should not move Gio to the pen in favor of Cease in the scenario I mentioned.

They need to make every possible effort to compete, while simultaneously monitoring Lopez and Cease and perhaps shifting one of them to the bullpen if either Dunning, Lopez or Kopech are ready to go.

Balancing act.

The Gio of 2012 would be nice.

4 hours ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

He stands a fair chance of being better than a “fifth starter”

Perfect placeholder for Kopech and will be there if anyone else struggles.  Nice signing.

2 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said:

Struggling is struggling, unless his ERA is inflated due to some uncommon fluke. Sox are in a position to compete next year and they should not move Gio to the pen in favor of Cease in the scenario I mentioned.

I feel like his ERA was inflated last year due to giving up more HRs than what normally would be expected.  He seemed to have a habit of pitching 4 great innings every game, and then having one inning where everything just fell apart.