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Betts to Dodgers

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2 minutes ago, aeichhor said:

 

Great "reporting" Jon!

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  • ChiSoxFanMike
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    What a massive overreaction.

  • Its obvious that the Dodgers werent going to trade Joc if they couldnt get Betts. Lets not pretend that it would have been a good idea to wait until the Dodgers made a move before looking for RF help.

  • Such a weird debate some of you are backing. The Angels got Joc for nothing bc the current price, due to the Dodgers' needs post Mookie trade, was much less than it was before they landed Betts.

Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Good one!  :bang

Better than whining after the offseason they had, and I didn’t like the Mazara trade. Long story short, they probably didn’t have anything to give up to get Betts and Hahn probably didn’t want to give up something for Joc in the short term.

1 minute ago, aeichhor said:

 

Good lord.

Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Good lord.

Why didn’t they take Luery Garcia?

3 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Isn’t Maeda always hurt?

He definitely isn't someone I would call dependable or an innings eater. He always ends the year in the bullpen, which I guess helps the Twins because theoretically they are getting Pineda and Hill back at some point. But still, they gave up a lot for a guy who isn't exactly a wow arm.

1 minute ago, hi8is said:

Why didn’t they take Luery Garcia?

Holy crap Luery may actually be better than this guy.  What.  The.  Hell.  

12 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

Wow i think the Twinks botched this one. Thats quite a bit for a pitcher who cant throw more than 150 innings at a 4.00 ERA clip. 

I'm scratching my head too.  Seems like a desperate win now move.  

Joc was traded as a salary dump. Lets hope Mazara is good.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Joc was traded as a salary dump. Lets hope Mazara is good.

Can you believe that?  Traded for a bench player.  Unfreakinbelievable.  

So Pederson starts in RF and then slides into a 1B platoon when Adell comes up?

Its obvious that the Dodgers werent going to trade Joc if they couldnt get Betts. Lets not pretend that it would have been a good idea to wait until the Dodgers made a move before looking for RF help. Come on now.

Whoof that hurts. To be fair, Hahn couldn’t wait and hope Betts got traded to the Dodgers and completely dumped for nothing.

1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said:

Whoof that hurts. To be fair, Hahn couldn’t wait and hope Betts got traded to the Dodgers and completely dumped for nothing.

Thanks for being rational. Mazara has a huge ceiling still. Only 24. 

Man, Hahn missed out.  Joc traded for crap.

Joc can’t be weighed as something “missed.”

31 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Joc can’t be weighed as something “missed.”

Why not?  Offer more for Joc than the Angels did.  Mazara could’ve been moved again.

As it stands now, the Sox gave up a better prospect for 2 years of Mazara than the Angels gave up for 1 year of a much better outfielder.

Edited by Moan4Yoan

This is all Peggy Kusinski’s fault

Twins are definitely all in for 2020. I think they'll likely take the division. Beyond that however I would MUCH rsther have the Sox future. 

Graterol could have pitched 150 innings at a 4.00 era for the twins this year alone. This trade is so strange for them

1 minute ago, reiks12 said:

Graterol could have pitched 150 innings at a 4.00 era for the twins this year alone. This trade is so strange for them

I thought that as well but maeda has 3 club options after this year so essentially they "fast forwarded" Garterol into a 3rd starter they control for 4 years.  It's probably not the best use of a prospect, but it's one that's immediately useful to them.  The Sox will be in a similar position next offseason one would hope.

Rich Hill and Homer Bailey look better now than they did at the time. Donaldson and Maeda are great adds, and I look forward to our response (which I don't expect to come until next winter) 

10 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Twins are definitely all in for 2020. I think they'll likely take the division. Beyond that however I would MUCH rsther have the Sox future. 

That’s the way to look at it. Good chance our Sox will be over .500 this season, maybe contend for a division or WC, but the winning window is still 2021-2025.

1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said:

Rich Hill and Homer Bailey look better now than they did at the time. Donaldson and Maeda are great adds, and I look forward to our response (which I don't expect to come until next winter) 

Still think Sox desperately need one more bench piece, with Holt being the perfect fit.  Right now we’re a few injuries away from seeing way too much Leury and Engel again.

2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Rich Hill and Homer Bailey look better now than they did at the time. Donaldson and Maeda are great adds, and I look forward to our response (which I don't expect to come until next winter) 

Twins aren't fooling around.  It's good for MLB to have interest outside the traditional large markets and it creates excitement of which the Sox have a legit shot to participate in down the stretch.  Good.

Just now, fathom said:

Still think Sox desperately need one more bench piece, with Holt being the perfect fit.  Right now we’re a few injuries away from seeing way too much Leury and Engel again.

Eh.  The pitching is the problem.  Engel and Leury are actually pretty ideal as backups.

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