CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Lovin' it. I'm going to guess a Baez/Tepera. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I was told they're going take a big swing so until I hear otherwise that's what I think they're going to do. Doubting anything big happens. Big would mean someone on the 26 is getting moved in all likelihood. Who is the most likely ? Keuchel ? Who needs starting pitching ? Toronto, Mets, Phillies, Padres. Unless the Sox think they can get someone impactful like Kimbrel for Crochet Sheets and Burger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Brad Hand to Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Baez and Story are running out of suitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, flavum said: Brad Hand to Toronto It's good to see that return wasn't that great. Maybe we have hope for a semi-cheap rental RP or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Baez and Story are running out of suitors. I don't think Baez was ever going anywhere. He is the one they would keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Baez and Story are running out of suitors. Colorado’s FO is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) I don’t see konnor pilkington on Chicago’s top 30 list. He’s a big lefty tho with good stats in AA Edited July 29, 2021 by JPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Colorado’s FO is terrible. They asked for Clint Frazier and two prospects for Story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, fathom said: They asked for Clint Frazier and two prospects for Story Wait it wasn't for Frazier and Andujar? Impossible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, JPR said: I don’t see konnor pilkington on Chicago’s top 30 list. He’s a big lefty tho with good stats in AA Welcome to Soxtalk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Baez and Story are running out of suitors. I know I'll catch flak from the "why do you even care about the cubs crowd", but I secretly want the cubs to bungle all of their trades for all of their stars like Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, and Kimbrel, and then watch those guys all walk in the off-season with the Cubs doing nothing to improve their position moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Doubting anything big happens. Big would mean someone on the 26 is getting moved in all likelihood. Who is the most likely ? Keuchel ? Who needs starting pitching ? Toronto, Mets, Phillies, Padres. Unless the Sox think they can get someone impactful like Kimbrel for Crochet Sheets and Burger. Do your really think that it would take all of those guys and Kimbrel's contract, to acquire him? I don't think so. Not even close, unless the Cubs picked up a good portion of the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Lillian said: Do your really think that it would take all of those guys and Kimbrel's contract, to acquire him? I don't think so. Not even close, unless the Cubs picked up a good portion of the money. I just threw some names out there for someone impactful like Kimbrel , not necessarily Kimbrel. I didn't analyze anything. It's hard for a layman to figure it out when there's a lot going on in Kimbrel's contract: Contract Notes: 2022 Vesting/Club option includes a $1M buyout Vest with 110 games finished across 2020/2021 & 55 games finished in 2021 & passes a physical 2022 Buyout increases $1M each for 53 games finished in 2020, & 2021 I have no idea if he will reach the vesting option portion of his contract. If he does he gets $16M next year . Cubs might eat some of his contract to get more prospects. It's even likely that they do. Maybe someone out there knows more about how close he is to those 110 games finished or if they are even possible to reach. Edited July 29, 2021 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 “ Biggest jump/fall Here are the players whose ranks changed the most from the 2020 preseason list to the 2021 preseason list. Jump: Bryan Ramos, 3B (2020: NR | 2021: 16) -- The Cuban defector has yet to make his full-season debut but has the potential to hit for average and power while remaining at the hot corner. Fall: Konnor Pilkington, LHP (2020: 24 | 2021: NR) -- A third-round pick in 2018, he saw his stuff regress as a junior at Mississippi State and it never has come all the way back” I little blurb from late March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, JPR said: “ Biggest jump/fall Here are the players whose ranks changed the most from the 2020 preseason list to the 2021 preseason list. Jump: Bryan Ramos, 3B (2020: NR | 2021: 16) -- The Cuban defector has yet to make his full-season debut but has the potential to hit for average and power while remaining at the hot corner. Fall: Konnor Pilkington, LHP (2020: 24 | 2021: NR) -- A third-round pick in 2018, he saw his stuff regress as a junior at Mississippi State and it never has come all the way back” I little blurb from late March. Yea but even the 2021 preseason lists are very old considering there were still guys like Vaughn , Kopech and Crochet on it and 2020 season didn't even happen. We see a lot of the prospects given up in trades are having good seasons which seems to be outweighing rankings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Yea but even the 2021 preseason lists are very old considering there were still guys like Vaughn , Kopech and Crochet on it and 2020 season didn't even happen. We see a lot of the prospects given up in trades are having good seasons which seems to be outweighing rankings now. Sure, but even if you adjust him in, where are you putting him? In the 20's somewhere? With as much as we have heard about how bad the Sox farm system now is, it's still not that big of a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Sure, but even if you adjust him in, where are you putting him? In the 20's somewhere? With as much as we have heard about how bad the Sox farm system now is, it's still not that big of a loss. I'm just informing anyone looking at the rankings that they don't mean much now. It's not a commentary on the trade. When I saw the trade going down before I knew who it was Cleveland was getting . I figured it was a minor league starting pitcher and if I had given it much thought before I actually saw Pilkington's name I probably would have guessed that it was him just based on this seasons results as the kind of pitcher Cleveland likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 He’s performing well in AA, just not a huge loss given the Sox are contending now. Watch me eat my words tho Lol. Dude might be a starter one day, he also may never make it. He’s a lottery ticket. Glad the south siders got a proven veteran that can produce now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I love all these AL teams bolstering their BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Probably not the momentum the Yankees imagined from all the Gallo talk…TB already torching Cole for 4 runs and still hitting in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: TB already torching Cole for 4 runs and still hitting in the first. Oh sweet justice how lovely you taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I'm just informing anyone looking at the rankings that they don't mean much now. It's not a commentary on the trade. When I saw the trade going down before I knew who it was Cleveland was getting . I figured it was a minor league starting pitcher and if I had given it much thought before I actually saw Pilkington's name I probably would have guessed that it was him just based on this seasons results as the kind of pitcher Cleveland likes. Righties with good control and a FB/SL combo? I know you're just letting us know you would've known the deal before it was public but how is Pilkington the kind of pitcher Cleveland likes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, raBBit said: Righties with good control and a FB/SL combo? I know you're just letting us know you would've known the deal before it was public but how is Pilkington the kind of pitcher Cleveland likes? Pilkington is a lefty. He's got a big, sturdy build you'd expect out of a workhorse. Isn't his changeup his best pitch? I read somebody call it plus-plus, which is likely a stretch. Edited July 29, 2021 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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