1 minute ago, ptatc said:

That's the Jack we all know. 

The only part of that post that wasn't sarcastic was the last line. I do think the fanbase should be allowed to vote to force ownership to sell. Then they'd have to be accountable to someone. 

11 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Have we decided to blame these signings on LaRussa or KW?

Whoever signed off on replacing Madrigal with utility players. I'll say that's ultimately Hahn's call.

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

The only part of that post that wasn't sarcastic was the last line. I do think the fanbase should be allowed to vote to force ownership to sell. Then they'd have to be accountable to someone. 

They are only accountable to shareholders. 

1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Whoever signed off on replacing Madrigal with utility players. I'll say that's ultimately Hahn's call.

If you listen to the people with supposed sources,  they all soured on Madrigal.  

Personally, I thought he was a useful player.

Just now, ptatc said:

If you listen to the people with supposed sources,  they all soured on Madrigal.  

Personally, I thought he was a useful player.

Madrigal was a top 10 2nd basemen (by fWAR) at the time of his injury. His bat clearly plays at the big league level and I think he was making strides before the injury. I don't want to have another Madrigal debate with anyone, really, but he was objectively a very productive player and clearly better than the utility guys they've brought in to replace him.

9 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Madrigal was a top 10 2nd basemen (by fWAR) at the time of his injury. His bat clearly plays at the big league level and I think he was making strides before the injury. I don't want to have another Madrigal debate with anyone, really, but he was objectively a very productive player and clearly better than the utility guys they've brought in to replace him.

Agreed.

20 minutes ago, ptatc said:

That's the Jack we all know. 

Noticeably left out “…and love.” 

8 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Madrigal was a top 10 2nd basemen (by fWAR) at the time of his injury. His bat clearly plays at the big league level and I think he was making strides before the injury. I don't want to have another Madrigal debate with anyone, really, but he was objectively a very productive player and clearly better than the utility guys they've brought in to replace him.

Before we anoint Nick...he played 6 games after May last year.  He had a major injury the year before. He had a major injury in his last year in college.  I loved his potential but is he not the positional equivalent of Rodon?  

    

I'm gonna guess the Bassitt trade had some impact on what we were trying to do. Because the 2 signings came out not long after. 

 

4 minutes ago, michelangelosmonkey said:

Before we anoint Nick...he played 6 games after May last year.  He had a major injury the year before. He had a major injury in his last year in college.  I loved his potential but is he not the positional equivalent of Rodon?  

    

i would certainly agree that health is a bigger question mark for him going forward than performance.

4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I'm gonna guess the Bassitt trade had some impact on what we were trying to do. Because the 2 signings came out not long after. 

Kelly was done yesterday it seems 

5 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

Kimbrel to Philly not looking too good. 

I think we can rule out a Kimbrel for Segura swap happening now.

Just now, chw42 said:

Kimbrel to Philly not looking too good. 

Cardinals beat writer today said STL still looking to add relief

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

Kimbrel to Philly not looking too good. 

Mets back in play?

Just now, fathom said:

Cardinals beat writer today said STL still looking to add relief

Ok, fine. We’ll take Nolan Gorman. 

it’s so obvious it’s going to be Joc in RF

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

Cardinals beat writer today said STL still looking to add relief

Cards wouldn't do it but dealing Kimbrel for Tommy Edman would be hilarious

1 minute ago, fathom said:

it’s so obvious it’s going to be Joc in RF

Add Joc to the RF mix and I think they're a lot closer to getting ~3 WAR out of RF than 2B.

Colome in Coors is going to be rough

 

Just now, maxjusttyped said:

Colome in Coors is going to be rough

omg that's gonna be so rough. 

Colome is gonna get torched in Coors.

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

omg that's gonna be so rough. 

Cardiac Arrest Colome