Just now, CentralChamps21 said:

I hate to be the glass half empty guy, but this new deal raised the luxury tax threshold which probably gave some teams more money to throw at some of the Sox FA targets.

It also allows the Sox to spend more without having to worry about hitting the luxury tax threshold, which we know Jerry wouldn't ever cross.

Just now, maxjusttyped said:

It also allows the Sox to spend more without having to worry about hitting the luxury tax threshold, which we know Jerry wouldn't ever cross.

Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one?

I think Bryant and Story are the 2 best FA fits left, but I'm not sure if Reinsdorf will want to spend on that caliber of player.

I could live with a Rosario or Joc Pederson type in RF if it meant the Sox acquire a high end 2B or SP option.

1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one?

He already was close to it.

Just now, CentralChamps21 said:

Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one?

Don't have the exact #s in front of me, but the Sox were actually pretty close to the previous luxury tax number,  IIRC.

A lot of the extensions they've done count more against the luxury tax number than their salary for 2022.

1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one?

Given that they're already at $194M they better get close. 

2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

I swear to god if they go cheap.........I will be in full force blast Jerry mode again

I will be full blast mode as well right there with you! This is one time JR needs to spend the money!

2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

I think Bryant and Story are the 2 best FA fits left, but I'm not sure if Reinsdorf will want to spend on that caliber of player.

I could live with a Rosario or Joc Pederson type in RF if it meant the Sox acquire a high end 2B or SP option.

Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. 

2 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

I will be full blast mode as well right there with you! This is one time JR needs to spend the money!

This year is the peak of the window. Do whatever it takes. 

The 2003 team could have won a WS if ownership wanted it to. You don't want that again. 

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Jack Parkman

Nick Castellanos or Kyle Schwarber could fit.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. 

Definitely not my cup a tea of either, but he's a 112 career wRC+  vs RHP and would be acceptable (to me) as a platoon option assuming they'd make meaningful upgrades elsewhere.

It's not as good as adding a Bryant or Conforto type, but I think you can get to ~3 WAR in RF between Leury, Sheets, Vaughn, Rosario & Engel.

Just now, The Kids Can Play said:

Nick Castellanos or Kyle Schwarber could fit.

Schwarber and Eloy in the OF would be god awful. 

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Vaughn in a package for Lowe from Tampa would be ideal

Tampa is a scary team to trade with.  They don't lose many of them.

1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Definitely not my cup a tea of either, but he's a 112 career wRC+  vs RHP and would be acceptable (to me) as a platoon option assuming they'd make meaningful upgrades elsewhere.

It's not as good as adding a Bryant or Conforto type, but I think you can get to ~3 WAR in RF between Leury, Sheets, Vaughn, Rosario & Engel.

Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF. Absolutely terrible. 

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Jack Parkman

6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. 

I honestly wanted him last off-season. I wanted them to grab another corner outfield bat to split corner OF and DH with Eloy and keep Vaughn in the minors for a bit. He would have been a nice piece to have post-Eloy injury lol

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Bob Sacamano

Just now, chw42 said:

Schwarber and Eloy in the OF would be god awful. 

One them needs to be DH and not both in the OF.

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF

Realistically, all the options after Castellanos, Conforto, and Bryant are huge gambles and all have glaring flaws. Pederson and Rosario are in the same league for me. 

1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said:

One them needs to be DH and not both in the OF.

So we'd play who in RF? Engel? 

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF. Absolutely terrible. 

I don't want bad outfield defense either, but if the Sox are going to lock themselves into it, doing so on cheaper guys like Rosario is preferable to me than spending up for Schwaber or Castellanos.

1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

I don't want bad outfield defense either, but if the Sox are going to lock themselves into it, doing so on cheaper guys like Rosario is preferable to me than spending up for Schwaber or Castellanos.

No arguments there. 

It may be that they don't want to go after Conforto because they think Colas will be ready in '23. 

I don't like the shitty RF D potential there, but I guess a Rosario/Engel platoon wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. 

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

So we'd play who in RF? Engel? 

Counting on Engel to be anything more than a 4th outfielder feels like a big stretch, for a variety of reasons.

They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer.  Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber.

Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer.  Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber.

Glad to hear you say Conforto. ❤️ 

Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer.  Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber.

I guess they could sign a Schwarber or Cruz type and then trade Sheets/Vaughn for somebody who can play RF. 

Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer.  Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber.

Bryant an option if we don’t convert on those guys? Or is he too expensive?