14 minutes ago, ptatc said:

No the 4 year isn't crazy. It would be a consideration, if that is truly the length. However, the Sox can't afford to wait around forever when they had other needs as well.

We surely created this "waiting around forever" as a result of this in limbo situation due to Kimbrel.  What is it that Hawk always said, self induced?

Last decade, it was Danks' contract/ineffectiveness blocking a lot of moves that was the excuse.

You always go after your big needs first, starting pitchers, RF and 2B.

There will always be relief pitchers, especially in this version of the sport with guys struggling to go five innings.

 

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7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think the White Sox strategy is they think they are good enough now to be in a great position I July, so they can add then and pay the addition for 1/3 of the season.

Great strategy to trade pieces from the 30th ranked farm instead of simply spending money.

I mean it isn't like Hahn is watching Michigan right now...

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We surely created this "waiting around forever" as a result of this in limbo situation due to Kimbrel.  What is it that Hawk always said, self induced?

Last decade, it was Danks' contract/ineffectiveness blocking a lot of moves that was the excuse.

You always go after your big needs first, starting pitchers, RF and 2B.

There will always be relief pitchers, especially in this version of the sport with guys struggling to go five innings.

 

No, i think Conforto’s agent created the waiting around forever scenario to find the best contract.

3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Great strategy to trade pieces from the 30th ranked farm instead of simply spending money.

Taking on bad contracts for Tier B/C guys...

We ain’t doing shit, have that expectation and you can’t be disappointed! 

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

I mean it isn't like Hahn is watching Michigan right now...

Can't exactly watch Northwestern or Harvard...unless even the NIT is more important than RF/pitching.

Just now, ShoeLessRob said:

We ain’t doing shit, have that expectation and you can’t be disappointed! 

We can't even be accused of being dark clouds as everyone has gotten so exasperated there's nobody to defend it except VaFan.

10 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Imagine trusting Rick Hahn/Sox FO to make competent TDL moves...

lol 

$16M for Jansen. Move Kimbrel now.

 

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1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

 

Interesting.  Frees up a spot for Kimbrel in LA. Could be one of the moving parts someone alluded to.

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39 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

As badly as they misplayed that one, we are talking 4 years here and not 8 to 10. And they don’t even want to go 4 with an out after 2.  Does not compute to me. 

If he wants 4/90 and that is so reasonable  why the hold up ? The reason might be that there are plenty of 3 year offers or maybe even a few for 4 but for $60-70M. It could be he's just trying to get as close to that original Mets offer of $100M as possible. He knows if he bets on himself again and loses  2 years in a row of bad play will fuck over his paycheck even more than the 1 bad year did.

We kept being told that GM's don't react to one bad year like fans do . Apparently they do or he would be signed already. Boras is just going to wait it out and hope someone gets desperate enough to give Conforto what he's seeking.

 

3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

$16M for Jansen. Move Kimbrel now.

 

Surprised he only got one year. If he got the same deal Kimbrel got, that's really good news for us. 

21 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Imagine trusting Rick Hahn/Sox FO to make competent TDL moves...

There haven't been many. I liked the Freddie Garcia one.

2 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

 

Good. Now this should get LAD to come to the table. Finalize the damn trade already and get Bellinger 

1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said:

Not being able to give Conforto a deal in that range because the Sox prioritized having a ~60M bullpen instead sure would be something.

Apparently nobody wants to give him that yet. Just takes one.

1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Good. Now this should get LAD to come to the table. Finalize the damn trade already and get Bellinger 

Or anyone else from anywhere else. I just want him gone. Gavin Lux?

4 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

 

Kimbrel gone by Monday. 

2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Kimbrel gone by Monday. 

One could hope, I only want him gone though if they are able to acquire a real RF or Starter with the money 

Hahn missed out on Jansen

3 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Or anyone else from anywhere else. I just want him gone. Gavin Lux?

Lux is far more realistic than Bellinger assuming we throw in something else besides Kimbrel or give them some money. LA really doesn't have a lot of reliever options out there in free agency. Maybe they're fine with just Treinen as their closer, but I find it hard to believe they'd spend all that money on Freeman and have a bullpen that leaks. 

Hard to believe Dodgers would want Kimbrel at a similar price that they could have just brought Kenley at.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Hard to believe Dodgers would want Kimbrel at a similar price that they could have just brought Kenley at.

Maybe they just don't like Kenley. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Hard to believe Dodgers would want Kimbrel at a similar price that they could have just brought Kenley at.

Yes but the idea with a LAD trade rumor is that we would eat money for a better return right?