Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: $4M in Luxury tax and $3M in Payroll Salary according to Spotrac . I wouldn’t worry about payroll salary since that includes a straight lined portion of his signing bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said: The board is like a contest between Caufield and Jack to see who can be the biggest shit poster. What did I write that was inaccurate today? Let’s hear it. Will be waiting with bated breath. And what posts are you noted for, exactly? I mean, honestly, the only time I notice is your taking shots at particular posters over and over again, but I suppose that’s good if you can get some likes out of it. Edited April 3, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Meh. Assuming we get someone else I could care less that we missed out on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, staxxington said: Meh. Assuming we get someone else I could care less that we missed out on him. Assuming, bring the key part of this sentence…and did they ever update Lynn’s injury status today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Typical we tried nonsense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I sort of think "Sox were in on him" in the thread title should really be " Sox had a seat at the table." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Soxfest said: Typical we tried nonsense Typical "I don't realize my team has a very weak farm" response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I sort of think "Sox were in on him" in the thread title should really be " Sox had a seat at the table." Sox front office should be pushing 500lbs per man with all tables they've sat in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Do you really believe the top teams in the game need to get validation that “they were in on XYZ target”? The fans of those teams expect actual results, not rationalizations like “he wasn’t worth the asking price, we didn’t want to mortgage the future, etc.” Corbin Burnes and Wheeler get brought up constantly. I don’t hear the Twins promoting that Mike Radcliffe had a verbal agreement with Juan Soto’s buscones before they flip flopped to Washington at the last minute. Preller got rebuffed yesterday by the Mets and was right back at it trying to make his team better the next day. And that constant tinkering can backfire. It certainly did last year. That hunger to get better everyday and compete with the best was more hardwired into KW almost twenty years ago than it is into Sox DNA right now. Riverboat gambler mode. At least it was exciting and entertaining. Currently, just feels like we’re simply content to rest on our laurels than to do everything possible to put a legit WS contending team on the field. If anything, it would be better to say nothing about Sox efforts because it comes off like we never have the needed bullets to get anything done. That’s even more frustrating. If Manaea (granted, about as likely as Rodon last year) wins the Cy Young, the storyline will be that we were right there until the final minute and had evaluated him perfectly. Edited April 3, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Looking at today's lineup, I'm surprised to see Vaughn back so soon. If he has the kind of season, most think he's capable of, that is going to be one potent lineup. There is only one average hitter, being Harrison, one through nine. Everyone else is dangerous. However, it does make me think that this roster could afford to give up some of that great offense, for better depth in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I don't want them to trade him for just anyone. I recognize his value. I just think that the board overrates his value league wide. He's a RH hitting 1B. As good as his potential is, that's not exactly a valuable piece. I don't overrate Vaughn, but there's a wide gap between Vaughn and what the Padres gave up to get Manaea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Still don't gdet how the Sox would ever consider it a savings. Kimbrel's salary, and now even Pollack's are way way higher than Madrigal's salary. Instead of previously blowing up the payroll to the moon, now it's just in orbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 So everyone is mad that we didn’t overpay for the pitcher everyone was worried we were going to overpay for. Got it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I don't overrate Vaughn, but there's a wide gap between Vaughn and what the Padres gave up to get Manaea. We're not talking about Vaughn for Manaea, We're talking about Vaughn for Keller or Luzardo. Edited April 3, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: We're not talking about Vaughn for Manaea, We're talking about Vaughn for Keller or Luzardo. Luzardo?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: We're not talking about Vaughn for Manaea, We're talking about Vaughn for Keller or Luzardo. I don't think I'd give up Vaughn for either of them. I'd rather just give ReyLo the innings if we can't get someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Luzardo?? With both guys the stuff is still there and Luzardo had a strong finish to the season after getting traded to Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Jack Parkman said: With both guys the stuff is still there and Luzardo had a strong finish to the season after getting traded to Miami. Luzardo had a 5+ FIP for the Marlins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chick Mercedes Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, soxfan3530 said: So everyone is mad that we didn’t overpay for the pitcher everyone was worried we were going to overpay for. Got it. Yeah, I don't know, but Vaughn is so good and valuable that the Sox can't even find a spot for him. I'd trade him. At the end of the day, he is a first baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Luzardo had a 5+ FIP for the Marlins Yeah I just looked it up I was mistaken on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 please just trade vaughn for an elite sp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: please just trade vaughn for an elite sp It sure would have been easier just bringing back Rodon. I’ll never understand how they (Sox management, media) were able to convince 70%+ of Sox fans on this forum that a two year contract for potentially a cy-young calibur pitcher was a bad investment. Especially when they have done NOTHING to replace him. And now we’re left having to potentially deal one of our younger positional pieces to fill a hole they created. Wasn’t the whole point of the rebuild to supplement the cheap, cost controlled players with more elite players through FA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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