1 minute ago, fathom said:

Yep time to trade Adolfo and a prospect for some pitching.  As my buddy CWS just mentioned, it’s really difficult to see how they cover all the innings in April.

The names aren't exciting, but Brubaker from the Pirates would be a nice get. Possibly a guy like Dean Kremer from the O's instead. Find someone that's stretched out who can help and get a deal done.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

VV is usually solid in even years so we’ll have to see about that

Should have put an asterisk about VV because if Katz is able to unlock him that's a huge deal. 

Man, you could see this lack of pitching depth coming a mile away. Bet they wish they at least tried with Rodon now.  This is why I was against Pilkington for Hernandez at the deadline.  Team has no pitching depth and is too cheap to sign real free agents, so either they go young or they go very old.  Right now, they have no young pitchers to turn to.  This move has a real Ervin Santana vibe to it.

1 minute ago, Timmy U said:

Man, you could see this lack of pitching depth coming a mile away. Bet they wish they at least tried with Rodon now.  This is why I was against Pilkington for Hernandez at the deadline.  Team has no pitching depth and is too cheap to sign real free agents, so either they go young or they go very old.  Right now, they have no young pitchers to turn to.  This move has a real Ervin Santana vibe to it.

I think Cueto has more in the tank than Santana did. 

Just now, Timmy U said:

Man, you could see this lack of pitching depth coming a mile away. Bet they wish they at least tried with Rodon now.  This is why I was against Pilkington for Hernandez at the deadline.  Team has no pitching depth and is too cheap to sign real free agents, so either they go young or they go very old.  Right now, they have no young pitchers to turn to.  This move has a real Ervin Santana vibe to it.

I know this is more in the weeds than a lot of people want to go, but it is absolutely insane a team this good was willing to go into the season with Jimmy Lambert, Emilo Vargas, & Kade McClure as the top pitching depth in the organization. It would have been impossible to do worse if they targeted teams with 40 man crunches to get an extra starter or 2. Pilkington was the best upper minors SP prospect in the system by a mile and trading him away for a mediocre 2B stop gap 2B never made any sense.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/johnny-cueto-456501?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

Cueto had his best heater since 2016 last year. 

Given Cueto won’t be ready for a few weeks, I wonder if the Sox bump up McClure to the 40 man.  No way they go with only 13 pitchers to start the season, but that’s all they have in camp at the moment.

This move has made sense for far too long. 

Just Cueto isn't enough though, they should get one more guy. 

I will go to fg and bs to try to find some interesting pitchers they might be able to acquire

 

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by Jack Parkman

I’m hoping for a Brubaker type too.

On 4/2/2022 at 1:10 PM, Polar Bear said:

I believe Cueto is still out there for cheap

 

On 4/3/2022 at 2:48 AM, Polar Bear said:

Cueto and Trevor Rosenthal on cheap contracts should get us the depth we need 

 

13 hours ago, Polar Bear said:

He would easily come in and be our number 4, so no he is not dog shit.  

In fact, given our budget and need, both Rosenthal and Cueto are perfect fits 

 

32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

 

Biggest no brainer in the history of mankind here. I doubt we get much out of Cueto but this was the right move. Hopefully he is healthy and can give them some quality innings. 

28 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Weak. 

So much for the "quality" SP Stone mentioned. This is crap. The division will be tight all year.

They still need another starter - this just helps with depth. Quite frankly he is better than Velasquez already and they still got to upgrade. But this was absolutely right initial move. 

He's a guy

Say what you will about Cueto as a pitcher, but he's hilarious to watch. 

31 minutes ago, ptatc said:

He doesn't need to finish the season. He needs to start it. Lynn will will be back in June.

This - plus despite being on the older side…when healthy he is a much better option than Velasquez anyway. I don’t want Montas at the price given up - let’s just give up a ton in the minors for some younger cost controlled stud that eventually goes on the market (go kw style). 

Much needed depth. Minimal risk, so expectations are really low.

15 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Say what you will about Cueto as a pitcher, but he's hilarious to watch. 

Love him.  Gonna bring some real swag to the south side this year ? 

 

The money will continue to be spent…. on old mediocre players 

 

53 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Weak. 

So much for the "quality" SP Stone mentioned. This is crap. The division will be tight all year.

This move literally cost the Sox nothing.

Plus, it only improves their negotiating stand w/ teams looking to trade a veteran (Montas) by telling them we have have bodies on standby if a trade can't be made.

Part of me hopes they figure out a way to get someone else so I never have to see him. 
 

but the rest really wants to see Cueto move around the mound like an asshole for the Sox. 

1 hour ago, fathom said:

I do like how this is structured.  If he goes to Charlotte and gets destroyed, they don’t have to ever promote him and the cost is minimal.

Well, pretty much anyone with a sub 5 ERA is doing well at Charlotte.

They need some veteran stability to get through the first half.  Who knows, maybe Keuchel or Cueto catch fire like Latos did for a handful of starts.

They desperately needed to cover innings with someone better than Lambert or Stiever, so that was accomplished.

Would rather give him a chance than Velasquez in the rotation.

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

Man, you could see this lack of pitching depth coming a mile away. Bet they wish they at least tried with Rodon now.  This is why I was against Pilkington for Hernandez at the deadline.  Team has no pitching depth and is too cheap to sign real free agents, so either they go young or they go very old.  Right now, they have no young pitchers to turn to.  This move has a real Ervin Santana vibe to it.

Pilkington has an 8.22 ERA this spring and just gave up 3 ER in 3 IP to a pretty terrible DBacks team.  He wasn’t going to be the savior this season, skipping all the way past AAA.

You can trust the Indians to get the max out of him, but he’s not really perceived as a long-term starter over there…not unless they have the same amount of injuries as last season.

He will fill in nicely for Billy Hamilton as a cool veteran that's easy to root for. Hopefully he has a smattering of memorable moments while filling in, but isn't ever seriously relied upon.