June 15, 20223 yr I'm not surprised at all. Vaughn's celling is very high! Vaughn was an accomplished college baseball hitter who won the the Golden Spikes award as the top amateur baseball player in the country. He was the # 3 overall pick in the 2019 draft. I did expect big things from him. Former winners of this award: Kris Bryant Stephen Strasburg Trevor Bauer Bryce Harper Buster Olney David Price Tim Lincecum
June 15, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I'm not surprised at all. Vaughn's celling is very high! Vaughn was an accomplished college baseball hitter who won the the Golden Spikes award as the top amateur baseball player in the country. He was the # 3 overall pick in the 2019 draft. I did expect big things from him. Former winners of this award: Kris Bryant Stephen Strasburg Trevor Bauer Bryce Harper Buster Olney David Price Tim Lincecum Was Buster Olney really a golden spikes award winner. I never knew it - or did you mean Buster Posey? Never mind - has to be Posey. Cause I just assume Olney has been a career journalist (vs. a former upper echelon college player).
June 15, 20223 yr Jeff Bagwell is who I see when I look at him. He just seems like a professional hitter to me.
June 15, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: Does the comparison have to be Caucasian? No. And that's a SUPER weird question to ask.
June 15, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: Does the comparison have to be Caucasian? Yes. That's how these things work.
June 15, 20223 yr Ceiling something like Edgar Martinez. Probably more like Matt Holliday. He's won me over for sure.
June 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Chisoxmb35 said: No. And that's a SUPER weird question to ask. Well all of the comparisons are white hitters. My comparison would be Gary Sheffield with less power.
June 16, 20223 yr Very hard to peg at this point since he is unique in terms of a typical first basemen. Of the players below, Steve Garvey may be the best projection. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/why-andrew-vaughn-is-such-a-unique-mlb-draft-prospect/ Vaughn is one of only eight MLB players drafted Top 10 as a RH 1B, and only the second since 1991. Frank Thomas, Mark McGwire and Tim Wallach are three standouts among the seven other draftees. There have only been four sub six foot RH throwing 1B since MLB integration (1947), and only two regulars, who have played more than 20 MLB games: 2,332 Steve Garvey 1,658 Bill "Moose" Skowron 328 Chuck Harrison 173 Tyler White In terms of modern White Sox players, would say Paul Konerko could be the best comp in terms of 1B and offensively, perhaps Carlos Lee defensively if he stays in LF (and a better hitter than Lee).
June 16, 20223 yr Offensively, Vaughn's ceiling is a .400 OBP/.500 SLG guy. Defensively, he'll never be above average at any position other than 1B. He can work at OF all he wants and learn perfect positioning and technique but he'll still be too slow to be above average there.
June 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: Well all of the comparisons are white hitters. My comparison would be Gary Sheffield with less power. That bat waggle and approach is so different...maybe in the sense that he's a better pure hitter than a true power hitter?
June 16, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That bat waggle and approach is so different...maybe in the sense that he's a better pure hitter than a true power hitter? Both seem to rope balls and give you all around hit tools. Short and stocky with it.
June 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: Well all of the comparisons are white hitters. My comparison would be Gary Sheffield with less power. How about Nick Madrigal with more power?
June 16, 20223 yr Vaughn looks like a legitimate .300 hitter this year. .400 if he can face Detroit pitching. He killed Detroit in that early series plus this last one and the Sox have several more games left against the Tigers. Detroit has really thrown in the towel .It is ugly to see that this early in the season. They should at least make it look like they are trying.
June 16, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Both seem to rope balls and give you all around hit tools. Short and stocky with it. Sheffield was a much better base runner and SS coming up though...before eventually moving over to third. Certainly much better agility. Second half of career maybe the comps are more apt for where Vaughn is now.
June 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, tray said: Detroit has really thrown in the towel .It is ugly to see that this early in the season. They should at least make it look like they are trying. Yep it's sad ten teams do this each year now, tanking, not paying anybody. That said, no opponent felt sorry when Manny Buenos Dias and Dylan Covey types took the mound every fifth day.
June 16, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Yep it's sad ten teams do this each year now, tanking, not paying anybody. That said, no opponent felt sorry when Manny Buenos Dias and Dylan Covey types took the mound every fifth day. Paying Eduardo Rodriguez and certainly Javy Baez and Miggy Cabrera. Also have lost a boatland of pitchers to injury, not to mention Riley Greene.
June 16, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Yep it's sad ten teams do this each year now, tanking, not paying anybody. That said, no opponent felt sorry when Manny Buenos Dias and Dylan Covey types took the mound every fifth day. Detroit looks really rough but what they have on the field wasn't the plan. They wanted their young rotation to grow together and instead they all got injured together
June 16, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said: I'm not surprised at all. Vaughn's celling is very high! Vaughn was an accomplished college baseball hitter who won the the Golden Spikes award as the top amateur baseball player in the country. He was the # 3 overall pick in the 2019 draft. I did expect big things from him. Former winners of this award: Kris Bryant Stephen Strasburg Trevor Bauer Bryce Harper Buster Olney David Price Tim Lincecum Let's not forget Brandon McKay Kip Bouknight Jason Jennings Khalil Greene Mike Zunino
June 16, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: Was Buster Olney really a golden spikes award winner. I never knew it - or did you mean Buster Posey? Never mind - has to be Posey. Cause I just assume Olney has been a career journalist (vs. a former upper echelon college player). My bad, Posey! haha
June 16, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, ptatc said: Let's not forget Brandon McKay Kip Bouknight Jason Jennings Khalil Greene Mike Zunino I do appreciate the sarcasm, but I guess not every player of the year makes it...but being on that list is pretty impressive!
June 16, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, ptatc said: Let's not forget Brandon McKay Kip Bouknight Jason Jennings Khalil Greene Mike Zunino Jennings threw over 1000 big league innings, Khalil Green played 736 big league games, Mike Zunino is in his 10th MLB season, and McKay made the majors real fast and broke down and go hurt. Kip Bouknight was born 10 years before me so you're really digging going back there. I'd say 4 of those 5 aren't busts.
June 16, 20223 yr Author 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Jennings threw over 1000 big league innings, Khalil Green played 736 big league games, Mike Zunino is in his 10th MLB season, and McKay made the majors real fast and broke down and go hurt. Kip Bouknight was born 10 years before me so you're really digging going back there. I'd say 4 of those 5 aren't busts. Gordon Beckham played 11 seasons in the majors. I think most people consider him a bust considering where he was drafted and what was expected.
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