52 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Who is Mike Hawk? ?

A fake insider with +5k Twitter followers

1 hour ago, hi8is said:

Who is Mike Hawk? ?

You should know, it's yours. 

38 minutes ago, chw42 said:

You should know, it's yours. 

Rosie won’t let me get to know him at all… she’s kind of possessive.

19 hours ago, DirtySox said:

From the AL Central trade piece.

https://theathletic.com/3462875/2022/07/30/twins-guardians-white-sox-trade-deadline/

This is basically all true. Wendle and Nat Moore are realistic LH platoon bat and LHRP pitcher options. You go much deeper than that for rentals you're looking at Quintana, Gallo Martin Perez. Teams always grab LH hitters and with Happ having the extra year he'll be too expensive. Martin Perez is likely to be expensive also but at least he's a rental> He also doesn't have a track record of success.

Really good article from fangraphs about his career and why the difference for this year. Basically a lot of data and technology went a long way to unlocking him.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-second-act-in-texas-has-made-martin-perez-a-first-time-all-star/

He wants to stay in Tx. and the Rangers want to keep him and won't move him unless it's for a difference maker. He likes it in Tx and has also mentored the young pitching staff.

I don't know who the Rangers would consider a difference maker or at what level they prefer the difference maker to be at but Vera, Lenyn Sosa, Cespedes or Popeye Rodriquez may not qualify.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 31, 20223 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

43 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

This is basically all true. Wendle and Nat Moore are realistic LH platoon bat and LHRP pitcher options. You go much deeper than that for rentals you're looking at Quintana, Gallo Martin Perez. Teams always grab LH hitters and with Happ having the extra year he'll be too expensive. Martin Perez is likely to be expensive also but at least he's a rental> He also doesn't have a track record of success.

Really good article from fangraphs about his career and why the difference for this year. Basically a lot of data and technology went a long way to unlocking him.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-second-act-in-texas-has-made-martin-perez-a-first-time-all-star/

He wants to stay in Tx. and the Rangers want to keep him and won't move him unless it's for a difference maker. He likes it in Tx and has also mentored the young pitching staff.

I don't know who the Rangers would consider a difference maker or at what level they prefer the difference maker to be at but Vera, Lenyn Sosa, Cespedes or Popeye Rodriquez may not qualify.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t think the White Sox would trade Vera for Perez.

Only the Perez position player equivalent, which is probably closer to the intermediate value between Happ and Josh Bell.

White Sox not listed among the teams interested in Joey Gallo.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/07/brewers-padres-rays-interested-in-joey-gallo.html

Apparently, DHs, 1B and LFers are the only players Hahn is interested in playing RF for the White Sox since 2020.

Weren't there rumors earlier of a Sox Marlins Chisholm trade because the marlins didnt like his attitude or off field stuff?

Based on the value chart, it would be almost identical if we got him for Vaughn, Ramos and Burger. 

I know he's out another 5 weeks but he could be ready for September and it's more of a long term thing. 

I dont want to trade Vaughn but Harold and others keep bringing him up in trade possibilities in the last year or so and a LH 2B with power and defense under long term cost control is harder to find than a very good RH 1B. 

 

2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Weren't there rumors earlier of a Sox Marlins Chisholm trade because the marlins didnt like his attitude or off field stuff?

Based on the value chart, it would be almost identical if we got him for Vaughn, Ramos and Burger. 

I know he's out another 5 weeks but he could be ready for September and it's more of a long term thing. 

I dont want to trade Vaughn but Harold and others keep bringing him up in trade possibilities in the last year or so and a LH 2B with power and defense under long term cost control is harder to find than a very good RH 1B. 

 

It's probably a good idea to try and trade either Eloy or Vaughn for Jazz this off-season. It helps us with our logjam of 1B/DH types and gives us a left handed bat we desperately need. 

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

It's probably a good idea to try and trade either Eloy or Vaughn for Jazz this off-season. It helps us with our logjam of 1B/DH types and gives us a left handed bat we desperately need. 

I think if you added him at 2B and with Colas likely to come up early next year in RF, you've added alot of LH savagery to the lineup.

And with Montgomery progressing, you give Moncada reason to up his game at 3B because there would be someone pushing him relatively soon (2024). 

 

 

great, the product on the field sucks, the coaching sucks, and now our prospects cant even net us a legitimate upgrade anywhere, lmao

 

I refuse to believe Hahn misjudged the market again   It’s almost like they should have had a better offseason and not relied on their terrible farm system to help at the deadline.

2 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

great, the product on the field sucks, the coaching sucks, and now our prospects cant even net us a legitimate upgrade anywhere, lmao

 

Don’t forget we also have a maxed out budget. 

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

Don’t forget we also have a maxed out budget. 

And only one big contract coming off the books (Abreu isn’t going anywhere)

Edited July 31, 20223 yr by fathom

29 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

I think if you added him at 2B and with Colas likely to come up early next year in RF, you've added alot of LH savagery to the lineup.

And with Montgomery progressing, you give Moncada reason to up his game at 3B because there would be someone pushing him relatively soon (2024). 

 

The White Sox will do TA the courtesy of giving Montgomery time at other positions in 2nd half 2023 unless 1) they’re not planning on keeping TA after 2023, or 2) they want Montgomery to quietly succeed Anderson in 2024 but not ready to trade Anderson quite yet, or 3) they feel Montgomery will outgrow SS eventually.

Moncada is not one to feel any pressure until his option years and not guaranteed ones come into question.

Even then, maybe he’ll be ready for a trade instead, fresh start like Kelenic probably needs as well.

This feels like that dead zone period for Sox prospects when we were pretty consistently a bottom 5-10 system under Williams (due to so many trades to fill mlb roster holes) and the #6-10 guys in the system got lot more hype and attention than was actually warranted.

I remember a Latin American catcher being on the BA Top Ten for 2-3 years even, never made it to the big leagues.

11 minutes ago, bmags said:

Don’t forget we also have a maxed out budget. 

On fringe garbage too

50 minutes ago, chw42 said:

It's probably a good idea to try and trade either Eloy or Vaughn for Jazz this off-season. It helps us with our logjam of 1B/DH types and gives us a left handed bat we desperately need. 

Unfortunately it would probably need to be Vaughn for health and contract reasons - which is why I’d prefer to keep him over Eloy if I had to choose between the two. 

30 minutes ago, fathom said:

And only one big contract coming off the books (Abreu isn’t going anywhere)

If JA isn't going anywhere then Vaughn has to be going somewhere. 

36 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

great, the product on the field sucks, the coaching sucks, and now our prospects cant even net us a legitimate upgrade anywhere, lmao

 

Ladies and gentlemen, your Chicago White Sox.

32 minutes ago, fathom said:

And only one big contract coming off the books (Abreu isn’t going anywhere)

The fact that it looks like they're just not able to make a deal is actually a good thing. 

Hahn can't stupidly trade the little value left on the farm. 

1 minute ago, Saufley said:

Ladies and gentlemen, your Chicago White Sox.

They keep saying they don't have the minor league pieces to trade like it's the fault of other teams and not the Hahn Regime.

44 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

 

Good. 

No big trades. 

If they drown, they drown. IDGAF.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

The White Sox will do TA the courtesy of giving Montgomery time at other positions in 2nd half 2023 unless 1) they’re not planning on keeping TA after 2023, or 2) they want Montgomery to quietly succeed Anderson in 2024 but not ready to trade Anderson quite yet, or 3) they feel Montgomery will outgrow SS eventually.

Moncada is not one to feel any pressure until his option years and not guaranteed ones come into question.

Even then, maybe he’ll be ready for a trade instead, fresh start like Kelenic probably needs as well.

I thought he would have been a sell candidate for Seattle.

I think Kelenic can still be great. I think the Mariners think so too, but I would definitely buy low on him if Seattle doesn't think highly of him.