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The White Sox over/under for 2023 wins is 83.5

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Seems about right but I’d lean towards the over myself. 

sounds a little high to me. we'll run out of starting pitchers around June.

I think they'll be a little better.  They ended up 81-81 last season, and a lot went wrong.  They didn't do much to improve, but even some slight rebounds from a few guys add some wins.

New manager bounce I'll take the over but 84 or 85 tops

Under, easiest money you could get.

5 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

I think they'll be a little better.  They ended up 81-81 last season, and a lot went wrong.  They didn't do much to improve, but even some slight rebounds from a few guys add some wins.

Pitching is way too thin to take the over, particularly when our top two hitters are prone to go down for half a season. One of our starting pitchers and one of Eloy or Robert are injured this team could easily lose ninety plus games. If the four top starters pitch 30 games and those two play 140 games they could win some games but no way I’m taking that bet

34 minutes ago, zisk said:

sounds a little high to me. we'll run out of starting pitchers around June.

The staff is light and Hahn should know better. 

Have to go under here. They didn't improve an 81 win team and instead are hoping for major bounce backs and health from multiple players.

Very disappointing off-season.

I’m holding out hope Hahn is hiding a trick up his sleeve and pulls off a trade to improve the major league roster. Foolish I know, but maybe a trade is more likely when teams have otherwise settled their rosters. Someone pointed out the plethora of 6th starter options the Padres have, maybe they would be more apt to unload one during spring training after they get a fresh look at them, for example

Bet the freakin house on the under.

37 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

I think they'll be a little better.  They ended up 81-81 last season, and a lot went wrong.  They didn't do much to improve, but even some slight rebounds from a few guys add some wins.

Tony also punted at least 10 games.  Even if you want to only give them credit for half that, that's significant if you get any improvement on health and/or performance from Robert, TA, Yoan, Grandal, Eloy etc. 

Balance scheduled going to be interesting for the ALC.

7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Balance scheduled going to be interesting for the ALC.

For some reason I think that benefits the Sox most in the division.

Call me a fool but I would have kept Jhonny and Elvis and found a couple more like them. Someone needs to work with Yo and recover his left side stroke. We need playahs. 

2 minutes ago, pcq said:

Call me a fool but I would have kept Jhonny and Elvis and found a couple more like them. Someone needs to work with Yo and recover his left side stroke. We need playahs. 

Betting on aging players that had their best seasons in half a decade+ generally is a terrible way to do business.  

That said, I'd definitely take Elvis for like $2M at this point. 

28 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Bet the freakin house on the under.

Especially because they will blow the whole thing up quickly if things start slow.  

Just now, fathom said:

Especially because they will blow the whole thing up quickly if things start slow.  

I have an extremely hard time believing this.

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

I have an extremely hard time believing this.

Giolito will be gone by July if I had to bet

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Giolito will be gone by July if I had to bet

There is a pretty big difference between trading Giolito and "blowing the whole thing up".

Giolito, and any other expiring asset should be traded if the Sox aren't winning the division or within a couple games as the TDL approaches.  

7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Betting on aging players that had their best seasons in half a decade+ generally is a terrible way to do business.  

That said, I'd definitely take Elvis for like $2M at this point. 

But Hahn has set the bar so low. ? 

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Especially because they will blow the whole thing up quickly if things start slow.  

If they are going to half ass this, they might as well blow it up.  At least be honest with the fan base.

for all you doomsday haters...don't bury them too much (this is vegas we are talking about)

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15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If they are going to half ass this, they might as well blow it up.  At least be honest with the fan base.

This org doesn't give a s%*# about the fanbase.  If half-assing it puts a few more asses in the seats before the ASB, they will do it.

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