caulfield12 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Even if LA did magically overhaul Lynn’s arsenal, he’s still losing the race with Father Time. Lynn regressing further with the Sox isn’t the sole reason for their lost season. We should be thanking LA for giving up anything of value for him. Keuchel Lynn Hendriks Abreu (at least they didn't resign him) Benintendi Pollock When are they going to learn veterans in a post steroids era have a shelf life of roughly 33-34 years? Catchers, even less. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I triple dog dare the Dodgers to start him in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I watched the game last night. He got bailed out 4 or 5 times by the Dodger defense. 4 or 5 ER start on the 2023 Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 All the earned runs he's given up for LA have been on solo homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Replacing any single piece from the org is shuffling deck chairs on the titanic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: I watched the game last night. He got bailed out 4 or 5 times by the Dodger defense. 4 or 5 ER start on the 2023 Sox. Hence the near 4 FIP… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said: Interesting to see… while we all knew (most did) that there was something wrong in Chicago, what “it” amounts to in stats . Edited August 19, 2023 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Chick Mercedes said: Interesting to see… while we all knew (most did) that there was something wrong in Chicago, what “it” amounts to in stats . He has a 1.26 FIP difference between the Dodgers (3.94) as here (5.20). He's pitched against bad offenses, has a much better defense behind him and likely gives a s%*# whereas he didn't here unless someone made him bend down and pick up a bunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: He has a 1.26 FIP difference between the Dodgers (3.94) as here (5.20). He's pitched against bad offenses, has a much better defense behind him and likely gives a s%*# whereas he didn't here unless someone made him bend down and pick up a bunt. I think he’s had poor performances against a lot of different quality offenses in Chicago, which didn’t go so well, but that requires breakdown analysis of which would be way more painstaking than I am able to tolerate. If one is to say he’s not better, and better utilized in LA, or is the same, that’s certainly interesting as well. But that isn’t my take. Something is different over there. If it’s just him, that would be disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: I think he’s had poor performances against a lot of different quality offenses in Chicago, which didn’t go so well, but that requires breakdown analysis of which would be way more painstaking than I am able to tolerate. If one is to say he’s not better, and better utilized in LA, or is the same, that’s certainly interesting as well. But that isn’t my take. Something is different over there. If it’s just him, that would be disappointing. I know we only have 2021 to go off of, but going off of that and his entire career, I wonder if Lynn shits the bed in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 A closer look at Lynn and the Sox days: https://soxmachine.com/2023/08/the-white-sox-traded-for-lance-lynn-then-stopped-striving/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Betting on pitchers with elite strikeout rates and acceptable walk rates is always going to be a winning strategy in the long-term. The quality of contact Lynn allowed has been brutal, but there's a ton of variance in that. It's frustrating when every other start he was getting bombed, but nothing in his underlying metrics suggested he was completely washed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 It's also not a coincidence this stuff keeps happening with the Dodgers. Surely there's nothing the White Sox can learn from the way they operate. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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