Never forget.

This manager and new GM came from KC.  Enough said.  We sit and watch other organizations make efforts to improve the manager position (Cubs)  and we continue with Double  AA quality, manager, coaches and players. Sickening

 

 

 

  

Did the Sox fire any staff that was still under contract?

Or retain any staff that wasn't under contract?  

I feel like this is the most telling sign that Getz is here to balance the budget.  

22 hours ago, GREEDY said:

Did the Sox fire any staff that was still under contract?

Or retain any staff that wasn't under contract?  

I feel like this is the most telling sign that Getz is here to balance the budget.  

Jose Castro, Daryl Boston, and Chris Johnson were let go/left. I'd guess that Castro probably had more term on his deal considering he was one and done, but the Sox don't typically disclose that information for whatever reason. 

Had to bump this as it fell all the way to page 3, which quite frankly is unacceptable IMO.

Fire Pedro. Ad Infinitum. 

At the risk of being called a troll I'll be happy on the day we close this thread and welcome a new manager. I'll even be happy if he proves me wrong and can manage a winning club. 

Bump…can’t let this fall to the 4th page

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Bump…can’t let this fall to the 4th page

???

I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/

Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. 

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/

Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. 

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But they were remarkably healthy – the second-healthiest team in the game, by some accounts – and so they ended up with a normal amount of playing time allocated to players on the initial roster despite all the fill-ins needed for the players who got traded.

Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this?

14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this?

Their team was on the field and that was the problem.

How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly??

1 minute ago, wegner said:

How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly??

Isn't this what happened in 2013? All the starters tanked, and they didn't replace them. 

14 minutes ago, wegner said:

Their team was on the field and that was the problem.

How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly??

Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years

In a sick and twisted way it's kind of impressive how quickly things went south. 

34 minutes ago, fathom said:

Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/

Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. 

Great article and some pretty good comments too. It just goes to show how little JR invests in acquiring and developing youth.

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Isn't this what happened in 2013? All the starters tanked, and they didn't replace them. 

Dunn really set them back, but that was 2011.

This was around the time they brought in Abreu and Avisail Garcia actually looked legit...then you had Sale Q, Anderson coming.  Eaton later.

The big flops of course were Beckham and Viciedo, though.

Nothing ever lined up together, though.

Then there was the off season of Melky Robertson and LaRoche...which led to more disasters internally.

But Hahn always won the offseason, lol.  There was that.

2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this?

Balta

2 hours ago, wegner said:

Their team was on the field and that was the problem.

How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly??

Arrogance that they thought they knew better than everyone else, dysfunction in the front office and an unwillingness by JR to finish the rebuilding job via acquiring additional talent.  

The lesson is if you are in such bad shape you need to rebuild, don't let the same people that got you in thar mess try to rebuild the team. At some point, they will make the same mistakes and have the same results that weren't good enough  before.

3 hours ago, fathom said:

Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years

This is a franchise that has actually gone from winning the World Series to being one of the worst teams in baseball within two years. So, it’s not exactly surprising.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Dunn really set them back, but that was 2011.

This was around the time they brought in Abreu and Avisail Garcia actually looked legit...then you had Sale Q, Anderson coming.  Eaton later.

The big flops of course were Beckham and Viciedo, though.

Nothing ever lined up together, though.

Then there was the off season of Melky Robertson and LaRoche...which led to more disasters internally.

But Hahn always won the offseason, lol.  There was that.

I had to read that twice because I was sure his last name was Cabrera ?

Still needs to go.

22 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Still needs to go.

Would be quite the Christmas miracle...

Still time for Getz to Scott Skiles his sorry ass…