Baron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sox72 said: Just upset he can’t brow beat an entire message board into believing his opinions are gospel. 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Seriously...when opposing teams are down and desperate....coming to their board to lord over yet another #1 farm system that they almost completely refuse to trade from isn't going to go over very well. I think this dude is related to someone we are talking about. He's taking it so so personally that we have different opinions on another teams prospects it's hilarious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Seriously...when opposing teams are down and desperate....coming to their board to lord over yet another #1 farm system that they almost completely refuse to trade from isn't going to go over very well. I have said I would do a deal that most of you have said you would like to do. Try reading and not generalizing. It makes your points and posts better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I am super confident what a ridiculous trade request is and I’m also super confident that a ridiculous trade offer hasn’t been offered or else the deal would be done. Do you think Getz is turning down deals that where they are offered multiple top 35 prospects? Are we approaching a deadline of some sort? What hasn’t happened to date is not a solid indicator of what’s “reasonable” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I have said I would do a deal that most of you have said you would like to do. Try reading and not generalizing. It makes your points and posts better. I'll speak for him and everyone. But no one on here wants your advice on how to post better. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohnut Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I have said I would do a deal that most of you have said you would like to do. Try reading and not generalizing. It makes your points and posts better. Ugh - take it to sbnation, man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: O’s fan positing incessantly on Cease rumors in White Sox message board saying something is getting old and childish is super rich. @T R U was right. This never ends well. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: Are we approaching a deadline of some sort? What hasn’t happened to date is not a solid indicator of what’s “reasonable” Yes it is…when the consistent thing you are hearing is that teams feel Getz is asking for too much and a trade that they have been talking to teams about since July still hasn’t happened, that tells you what you need to know. If he was only talking to the Os, you would be right..but hes not. We know (or at least if the rumor was true) what he asked for from Cinci and clearly that was greeted with a no. We know he asked for Holliday in July, that was greeted with a no. So yea, we have that idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Baron said: I'll speak for him and everyone. But no one on here wants your advice on how to post better. That’s fine..it’s not advice I care to give. However, if you are going to misrepresent what I’m saying, I’m going to say something. Edited December 31, 2023 by Sports Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: O’s fan positing incessantly on Cease rumors in White Sox message board saying something is getting old and childish is super rich. If only there was a place for O’s fans to talk about their team. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Sports Guy said: That’s fine..it’s not advice I care to give. However, if you are going to misrepresent what I’m saying, it’s not going to go unnoticed by me. I'll just say this. Your passive aggressive BS is going to be very short lived on here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: If only there was a place for O’s fans to talk about their team. Cybradish.com 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: Yes it is…when the consistent thing you are hearing is that teams feel Getz is asking for too much and a trade that they have been talking to teams about since July still hasn’t happened, that tells you what you need to know. If he was only talking to the Os, you would be right..but hes not. We know (or at least if the rumor was true) what he asked for from Cinci and clearly that was greeted with a no. We know he asked for Holliday in July, that was greeted with a no. So yea, we have that idea. Getz wasn’t the GM in July. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: Yes it is…when the consistent thing you are hearing is that teams feel Getz is asking for too much and a trade that they have been talking to teams about since July still hasn’t happened, that tells you what you need to know. If he was only talking to the Os, you would be right..but hes not. We know (or at least if the rumor was true) what he asked for from Cinci and clearly that was greeted with a no. We know he asked for Holliday in July, that was greeted with a no. So yea, we have that idea. Qualifying as reasonable is a subjective measurement. You have your view, cool. The league hasn’t met Getz’s asking price to date. But it doesn’t sound like Getz is done talking with other teams, who are well aware of the ask. If he ends up keeping him, that’s the choice. Nothing about that is unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, SkokieSox said: Qualifying as reasonable is a subjective measurement. You have your view, cool. The league hasn’t met Getz’s asking price to date. But it doesn’t sound like Getz is done talking with other teams, who are well aware of the ask. If he ends up keeping him, that’s the choice. Nothing about that is unreasonable. I can’t state this enough, the best Sox insider has said all along the plan was to deal him AFTER Snell and Montgomery go elsewhere. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Getz wasn’t the GM in July. How the hell did he miss that one lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fathom said: I can’t state this enough, the best Sox insider has said all along the plan was to deal him AFTER Snell and Montgomery go elsewhere. and today was a perfect picture of why being patient was the right move. Teams are overpaying massively for pitchers that have barely pitched in the past year or two. Cease's games pitched over the past two years is a huge asset. The market for pitching is horrendous. Edited December 31, 2023 by Baron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SkokieSox said: Qualifying as reasonable is a subjective measurement. You have your view, cool. The league hasn’t met Getz’s asking price to date. But it doesn’t sound like Getz is done talking with other teams, who are well aware of the ask. If he ends up keeping him, that’s the choice. Nothing about that is unreasonable. I want to be clear..Getz is doing what he should be doing. This is how these things work. Trading team asking for too much…teams trading for player are offering too little. Eventually some team is able to come to an agreement. Getz is doing his job and as of now, he’s doing it properly and well. Elias and other GMs are doing the same. But an unreasonable trade, such as Mayo and Cowser (which is where this started) has zippy chance of happening and if it did, it would be done by now. I don’t see how anyone can possibly disagree with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, fathom said: I can’t state this enough, the best Sox insider has said all along the plan was to deal him AFTER Snell and Montgomery go elsewhere. Sure..but a high end offer would cause them to make a move now. Getz isn’t just sitting around doing nothing with Cease until those guys sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Sports Guy said: Sure..but a high end offer would cause them to make a move now. Getz isn’t just sitting around doing nothing with Cease until those guys sign. No, he’s actually very busy dumpster diving for crappy players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I want to be clear..Getz is doing what he should be doing. This is how these things work. Trading team asking for too much…teams trading for player are offering too little. Eventually some team is able to come to an agreement. Getz is doing his job and as of now, he’s doing it properly and well. Elias and other GMs are doing the same. But an unreasonable trade, such as Mayo and Cowser (which is where this started) has zippy chance of happening and if it did, it would be done by now. I don’t see how anyone can possibly disagree with that. I don’t get why anyone would take it so personally when another fan base, on their team board, wants their GM to get a huge return. Trading Cease is the Sox Super Bowl for the upcoming season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: I want to be clear..Getz is doing what he should be doing. This is how these things work. Trading team asking for too much…teams trading for player are offering too little. Eventually some team is able to come to an agreement. Getz is doing his job and as of now, he’s doing it properly and well. Elias and other GMs are doing the same. But an unreasonable trade, such as Mayo and Cowser (which is where this started) has zippy chance of happening and if it did, it would be done by now. I don’t see how anyone can possibly disagree with that. Likelihood and what’s reasonable are not the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: Sure..but a high end offer would cause them to make a move now. From the sound of it, they’re barely talking to teams as they wait for the market to clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Baron said: How the hell did he miss that one lol I didn’t but it also doesn’t change my point. Getz was likely involved in those talks and while he may have different ideas than what Hahn wanted, the conversations still happened and the negotiations were still there and no question Getz was either involved or knew what was being said. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I didn’t but it also doesn’t change my point. Getz was likely involved in those talks and while he may have different ideas than what Hahn wanted, the conversations still happened and the negotiations were still there and no question Getz was either involved or knew what was being said. Getz’s focus on players has been significantly different than his predecessor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: Likelihood and what’s reasonable are not the same thing In this case, they are. So, to be clear, if a team was offering him multiple top 35 prospects, your stance is that Getz would be saying no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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