2 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

Mayer + Montgomery + 3rd piece?

It would be hard to say no to this even with Mayers injury issues.

That would be two very good players hopefully you can keep Mayer healthy.

Two big time lefty bats (Montgomery is technically switch but much better from left side).

 

1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Chili bonb

 

Lol not sourced, sorry

2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Could be a nice domino effect. Trade Crochet to the Mets then trade for Ben Rice when the Yankees sign Alonso or Walker.  Bada bing bada boom.  

Who do the Mets have that we want? Yeah, I know Batty , but Sox should be able to get him for a middle reliever ( if we had one). 
 

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

60 wins here we come!

That’s our best baseline case next year regardless of what we do 😆

So Soto going to the Mets is good news for the Crochet market.  The Yankees will now be desperate to replace Soto’s lost production and will almost certainly get aggressive with Burnes & Fried.  I personally think the latter ends up with the Yankees, while the former ends up with the Giants.

This would put the Red Sox is a pretty tough spot from both an impact player and SP perspective.  Flaherty would be the last potential quality SP available, but even then his track record has been spotty and he’s not a true ace.  The Red Sox finished five games out of the wild card last season.  While the AL Central should regress some next year, there are other teams who missed out on the post-season who will likely be better as well.  I think it’s clear they will need a much bigger SP addition than Flaherty to move the needle enough and Crochet can provide that type of impact.

Also, Soto to the Mets puts more pressure on the elite NL teams that aren’t named the Dodgers.  The Phillies & Braves now have a rival with an improved chance of winning the division and who will serve as another potential obstacle alongside the Dodgers come October.  There is going to be an arms race for impact and Crochet is one of the few aces available.  While the Dodgers don’t really match, the Phillies have the pieces to get a deal done if they are motivated enough.  Hopefully this Soto news creates that sense of urgency and we can get a couple of desperate teams to bid against each other.

10 hours ago, fathom said:

By no means am I saying I like these moves 

Same, I was also joking.

 

 

If second rate farm systems are still in the running this deep in the game for Crochet, that probably tells us what the offers currently look like.

3 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

 

Trying to put pressure on the Cubs?

10 minutes ago, Whisox05 said:

 

 

It seems like every day a new team pops up who has interest in trading for Crochet. 

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If second rate farm systems are still in the running this deep in the game for Crochet, that probably tells us what the offers currently look like.

Makes me think the Reds and Brewers plants are to drive up a Cubs offer... Brewers can't get it done and Reds would be really weak, and likely be a quantity offer.. 

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If second rate farm systems are still in the running this deep in the game for Crochet, that probably tells us what the offers currently look like.

This feels like last year.

4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Makes me think the Reds and Brewers plants are to drive up a Cubs offer... Brewers can't get it done and Reds would be really weak, and likely be a quantity offer.. 

I'm not going to act like an expert on the Brewers system, but it seems like they have a few pieces that could get it done?

I wonder how high Jesus Made would rank on an updated top 100. The BA writeup is tantalizing. 

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I'm not going to act like an expert on the Brewers system, but it seems like they have a few pieces that could get it done?

They lack stars at the top that a few other systems could offer.

7 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I wonder how high Jesus Made would rank on an updated top 100. The BA writeup is tantalizing. 

Really like him. But I just don't see how they get it done.. No interest in another catcher headliner.. So a Pratt, Made ++ would seem so weak. Seems like another quantity offer team.

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6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

They lack stars at the top that a few other systems could offer.

Huh. I thought Quero and Pratt would be top 100. Guess not.

3 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Huh. I thought Quero and Pratt would be top 100. Guess not.

They are.

Haven’t heard the Brewers mentioned until now. Thoughts on their system? I wonder if this is to push the Cubs forward.

 

9 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Really like him. But I just don't see how they get it done.. No interest in another catcher headliner.. So a Pratt, Made ++ would seem so weak. Seems like another quantity offer team.

The Brewers do have the first Comp Balance Round A pick. 

3 minutes ago, striker said:

Haven’t heard the Brewers mentioned until now. Thoughts on their system? I wonder if this is to push the Cubs forward.

 

I think it has to be a Cubs push

10 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Huh. I thought Quero and Pratt would be top 100. Guess not.

The MLB top 100 engine is a little wonky right now. A lot of player slots have their schools slotted in for team, so they're not showing up in team lists of top 100 players. 

3 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The MLB top 100 engine is a little wonky right now. A lot of player slots have their schools slotted in for team, so they're not showing up in team lists of top 100 players. 

Yeah I think that's the issue I was running into. 

19 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Huh. I thought Quero and Pratt would be top 100. Guess not.

They were. Not sure where they stand with new top 10 rankings though. Jesus Made is the Brewers number one prospect now.

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1. Jesus Made SS

Ht: 6'1" | Wt: 187 | B-T: S-R

BA Grade/Risk: 65/Extreme.

Track Record: When the Brewers signed Jackson Chourio out of Venezuela in 2021, they landed a future franchise cornerstone who made his major league debut three years later as a 20-year-old. With Made, the Brewers might have their next international star. Made signed out of the Dominican Republic for $950,000 as a 16-year-old in 2024. A switch-hitting shortstop, Made had an outstanding debut in the Dominican Summer League, where he was the league’s top prospect. Even as a DSL hitter, Made’s season was impressive enough that the Brewers named him their co-minor league player of the year with shortstop Cooper Pratt.

Scouting Report: Made checks just about every box you could ask for from a young hitter. He makes outstanding swing decisions for his age with a patient, disciplined approach to consistently put together quality at-bats. At times, Made will open early and get out on his front side, but he’s able to track pitches well and deftly maneuver the barrel throughout the strike zone, leading to good plate coverage with a low swing-and-miss rate. He makes consistent hard, high-quality contact, too, with the ability to backspin balls with exit velocities up to 109 mph, which translated to some of the best power in the DSL. Given Made’s fast bat speed and strength projection, he could have plus or better power to go with his high on-base skills. Some scouts think Made might have even more power from the right side, though with the lack of lefthanders in the DSL, Made had just 32 plate appearances batting righthanded in 2024. Made’s athleticism also stands out. He’s a plus runner who stole 28 bases in 32 attempts and also has a plus arm, which is a tool that could still tick up another grade given his age and strength projection. Made mostly played shortstop but got reps at third base and second base, as well. He’s not as polished defensively as he is at the plate, so while he has a chance to stick at shortstop, he could move around the infield or potentially fit in center field, too. He has the athleticism, range and arm strength for shortstop, but like a lot of young infielders, he’s still learning to slow the game down and set his feet properly to cut down on throwing mistakes.

The Future: Made is still several years away, but he has star potential. Chourio headlines a strong group of young players the franchise has signed out of Venezuela in recent years, but Made has the potential to be the organization’s best Dominican signing in a long time. He’s on track to likely skip the Rookie-level Arizona Complex League and jump straight to Low-A Carolina in 2025, similar to what the Brewers have done with Chourio and outfielders Luis Lara and Yophery Rodriguez in recent years.

Scouting Grades Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60

 

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38 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I wonder how high Jesus Made would rank on an updated top 100. The BA writeup is tantalizing. 

They have him as a 65 FV guy, so he’s got to be up there.  Just can’t imagine they would give up that type of talent.