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9 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Yep. We want them to stop spreading limited FA money across multiple low ceiling guys, and just spend a little more for an upside swing? Well...

Yeah I won't be crying if the Sox have a player with the talent level of LouBob on the squad next year with a contract that has no negative impact on the team's future

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9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Well, you would be wrong then.  Wheeler has been to a WS, an NLCS, and an NLDS the past 3 seasons, and he has a shot at the postseason for the fourth straight season.  That’s history.  You are just speculating at what could have happened.

Speculating is all we have.

You and your facts can go to hell!!!!

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8 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

Yeah, I don't think its a slam dunk.  But its a risk you can take if you have no payroll and no other options in CF.  

If they sign a FA CF like Harrison Bader, what are they paying him?  The amount you are risking is the difference between that one year contract and the 20 million you are paying Robert. 

Yeah I fully agree with that. The problem is I don't think we have an owner who does. 

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Hell let's just start adding at this point and make a push for the wildcard. Seems like we could pick up some wild card veterans for some no name prospects. Pull a gool ol fashion KW and go get Verlander, McKutchen, Paul Dejong, Kris Bryant, 

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9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

So we get to do this all over again in another 5 months? Great

We did this for Crochet and Cease. We should be used to it. 

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13 minutes ago, T R U said:

Yeah I fully agree with that. The problem is I don't think we have an owner who does. 

What if Robert finishes up strong, the Sox pick up his option and trade him with cash to pay a good chunk of his 2026 salary....what would a full year of a reduced price, healthy Robert be on the off season market?

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20 minutes ago, T R U said:

Did you forget who the owner of this team is? He has a chance to eliminate $20M off the books for a player who is in no way shape or form earning that salary.

Its not my money, I dont care about it, but I understand the man who DOES care about it. 

According to Spotrac, there is $47M on the books for 2026.  Another 1 year $20M contract before a lockout won’t kill any Owner’s bottomline.

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8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Crochet and Cease were relatively short lived. Robert has been on the trading block for almost two years.

I mean I'm not sure if he really has been. 

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8 minutes ago, DFAthewave69420 said:

According to Spotrac, there is $47M on the books for 2026.  Another 1 year $20M contract before a lockout won’t kill any Owner’s bottomline.

JR aside, there is no owner in sports who is just going to keep an albatross contract when given the option to completely eliminate it, regardless of how low their payroll is.

Do people really think a financial shrewed owner like JR is going to look at this and go "Eh, just pay him $20M our payroll is low anyways and its not going to kill me".... come on.....

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8 minutes ago, T R U said:

JR aside, there is no owner in sports who is just going to keep an albatross contract when given the option to completely eliminate it, regardless of how low their payroll is.

Do people really think a financial shrewed owner like JR is going to look at this and go "Eh, just pay him $20M our payroll is low anyways and its not going to kill me".... come on.....

Definitely makes sense to evaluate whether the player is worth it or not, regardless of existing payroll obligations. That said, it's hardly an albatross contract. It's "do you want to pay this player $20M for one year with the option to keep him the next season at the same price." One year deals are never an albatross even if they can be a waste of money

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9 minutes ago, T R U said:

JR aside, there is no owner in sports who is just going to keep an albatross contract when given the option to completely eliminate it, regardless of how low their payroll is.

Do people really think a financial shrewed owner like JR is going to look at this and go "Eh, just pay him $20M our payroll is low anyways and its not going to kill me".... come on.....

Agreed. Jr and the Sox have moved on from all of Hahn's foolish early extensions to the "core". Gotta think they will do the same with Robert. Or maybe they try to pull another Kimbrel and extend Robert only to trade him a couple days before Spring training for another overpaid veteran like AJ Pollack. 

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6 minutes ago, Jake said:

Definitely makes sense to evaluate whether the player is worth it or not, regardless of existing payroll obligations. That said, it's hardly an albatross contract. It's "do you want to pay this player $20M for one year with the option to keep him the next season at the same price." One year deals are never an albatross even if they can be a waste of money

Yes, but the player is not worth it, not the one we have seen for the last 2 years anyways. 

I use the term albatross in regards to having to pay an underperforming player a $20M salary.

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19 minutes ago, DFAthewave69420 said:

According to Spotrac, there is $47M on the books for 2026.  Another 1 year $20M contract before a lockout won’t kill any Owner’s bottomline.

Of course it wouldn't, but that doesn't matter to JR. They can use that money elsewhere.

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6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Of course it wouldn't, but that doesn't matter to JR. They can use that money elsewhere.

Exactly. If you have been paying attention, JR would much rather pay 10 players $2M each instead of 1 player $20M. 

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Can't just move Luis just to move him, if the offers are as bad as we've seen for other players. Sucks, because he's a dead man walking on this team, but....can't trade him just to say 'we traded him'.

 

Houser/Civale are the bigger mysteries.

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11 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Of course it wouldn't, but that doesn't matter to JR. They can use that money elsewhere.

In today's game $20M doesn't get you much.  That can get you a guy with less than half the upside of Robert for maybe60-70% of the AAV, but you may have to commit multiple years.  I know Sox fans have soured on Robert - and for good reason - but $20M for him is not a bad number. If Sox (or whoever he gets traded to) buys him out (unlikely imo), I bet he'd easily surpass 5/$100M on the open market. 

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10 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Can't just move Luis just to move him, if the offers are as bad as we've seen for other players. Sucks, because he's a dead man walking on this team, but....can't trade him just to say 'we traded him'.

 

Houser/Civale are the bigger mysteries.

Nobody complaining about the market drying up would have been happy with any of those returns. Those were low end flyers for Mullins. 

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