southsider2k5 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Lol ahh yes, the classic white sox did nothing wrong with his development it was outside influence. ISTG. All of the credit, none of the blame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Looks like another first round nightmare on offensive side 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/04/29/white-sox-send-top-prospect-colson-montgomery-to-arizona-to-take-a-step-back At 23 and with a history of back issues, Montgomery is running out of time to prove he’s a major-league player. Getz said earlier in the scrum that he didn’t want to rush players to the majors. But taking your top prospect and changing his environment isn’t exactly a vote of confidence. Edited April 30 by Lip Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, T R U said: If he was disappointed about not making the OD roster I wonder how this kick in the nuts of your ego goes.. yikes. Hopefully it works out. Trade the poor kid. Let a real organization help him re-start his pro career. For the Sox to make this move, he's definitely hit rock bottom with the inept organization. Somebody will take him for 2 average prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: We're really celebrating a team breaking a player to such an extent that he has to be removed from games to be fixed? More of a celebration of the recognition that he's broken. Admitting that something is wrong is better than living in denial. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, bighurt574 said: I’ve never heard of an organization having to pull a top 100 prospect out of AAA (not just a demotion) to work on his swing. Not sure it counts the same, but the Blue Jays did the same with Roy Halladay way back in the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 In summary, we may have gone from: To: …but at least it’s trying something different, which is (I guess) progress from where the org has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, JoeC said: More of a celebration of the recognition that he's broken. Admitting that something is wrong is better than living in denial. Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, JoeC said: More of a celebration of the recognition that he's broken. Admitting that something is wrong is better than living in denial. Except the Sox are seemingly living in denial regarding Vaughn. Not the exact same thing but still bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. I was going to say — has this ever happened before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, JoeC said: Not sure it counts the same, but the Blue Jays did the same with Roy Halladay way back in the day. Halladay had already made the majors with a season of success under his belt. That instance would be more like the equivalent of the Sox sending Vaughn to the minors to work on his swing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. Fair enough. I guess my point is.... baby steps. At least acknowledging failures is the first step to fixing them. I have no faith in their ability to fix things on the scale they need to be fixed, but at least they're not just doing nothing before giving up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Halladay had already made the majors with a season of success under his belt. That instance would be more like the equivalent of the Sox sending Vaughn to the minors to work on his swing. Yeah, a season of success followed by a season of abject failure. They literally had to re-build him from the ground up. I would argue Montgomery isn't the same, but it's the closest thing I could come up with off the top of my head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I'm just waiting for people to start praising Getz for getting Bonemer in the system as Colson "insurance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 12 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Lol ahh yes, the classic white sox did nothing wrong with his development it was outside influence. Someone posted he hit .333 as a senior playing high school in Indiana. Not sure if thats true but if it is, it seems insanely mediocre for a first round draft pick. Maybe picking him was the mistake . He hasn't been particularly good above A ball. Could be he just doesn't have that much talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 16 minutes ago, Quin said: I'm just waiting for people to start praising Getz for getting Bonemer in the system as Colson "insurance." Was Getz responsible for the Montgomery draft selection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. I can't wait to be told they didn't draft him, so it isn't their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 15 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: Was Getz responsible for the Montgomery draft selection? Oooh, so this is the counter point. No, but he was certainly responsible for his development. Also, Wes Kath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I can't wait to be told they didn't draft him, so it isn't their fault. Didn't have to wait long. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoSoxMan Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Wonder if @Harold's Leg Lift has heard, but someone said they thought getz might ask around to bring in someone to run scouting with a little more feel for hitting and identifying guys that have a chance to be elite with the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 11 minutes ago, Quin said: Oooh, so this is the counter point. No, but he was certainly responsible for his development. Also, Wes Kath. It was a question not a point. My point was that if he hit .333 in high school ball in Indiana maybe he's just not very good. Half my high school team in Indiana hit over .300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: It was a question not a point. My point was that if he hit .333 in high school ball in Indiana maybe he's just not very good. Half my high school team in Indiana hit over .300 Colson was a raw three sport athlete who could have gotten a D1 offer in three sports, with the expectations he could blow up in any of the three. He set school records as a QB, SG, and SS in a pretty decent school. He was a universally thought of 1st round draft pick in MLB. It is revisionist history to pretend he was an inevitable failure because of his HS batting average., 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 13 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: No longer excited about this guy. Prove me wrong. Said this last week and I was assured "but he's heating up!" The back injuries, inability to hit a fastball, and now broken confidence have me really discouraged. Obviously really want him to succeed but my expectations are zero at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Colson was a raw three sport athlete who could have gotten a D1 offer in three sports, with the expectations he could blow up in any of the three. He set school records as a QB, SG, and SS in a pretty decent school. He was a universally thought of 1st round draft pick in MLB. It is revisionist history to pretend he was an inevitable failure because of his HS batting average., I' m not saying he was an inevitable failure or that he wasnt a talented athlete but I would think a first round draft pick would have put up better numbers in high school. Plenty of QBs and basketball players couldn't hit high level pitching so not sure how that's relevant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Just watching the games it seemed to start the season he was swinging at everything trying to hit one out every swing. It was oddly out of character. I suspected then and still do that he was disappointed in being optioned and was trying to be promoted asap, probably developed some bad habits, and dug himself into a massive hole. Who knows if it will work, but I think the Arizona demotion could be a much needed reset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.