Chicago White Sox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, T R U said: On the flip side, when your in the race you can afford to send your 18th best prospect to a garbage team to get a platoon guy that could help you win a World Series. Exactly…wish we were in a position where we could trade a 4th round pick to improve our World Series chances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I approach this trade with modest Ziehl 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Because Yankees fans are apparently too stupid to look at splits. Seems like Mets fans have a similar problem. The problem with strict platoons is that players aren’t robots. There’s injuries, days off, randomness of pitching matchups, etc. It’s great that Slater can hit LHP well but he had almost as many plate appearances against RHP (54) as LHP (69) for the Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The problem with strict platoons is that players aren’t robots. There’s injuries, days off, randomness of pitching matchups, etc. It’s great that Slater can hit LHP well but he had almost as many plate appearances against RHP (54) as LHP (69) for the Sox. On a team with a better roster, that will change: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Most people wanted Getz to sign the other Austin in the offseason, and they were right. This is an absurd post. Getz signed Slater right out of the gate, dude delivered as hoped, and now has returned a prospect ranked 18th in the Yankees system by BA. We have no fucking clue if Hayes would even have considered signing with us coming off a historically bad season and what that would have cost. And honestly, Tauchman is the guy you should be comparing him to because Hayes wasn’t coming here for a platoon role. Meanwhile, Tauchman has performed nearly identical to Hayes at less than half the cost and with an extra year of control. The fact of the matter is you called both Slater and Tauchman garbage additions and wastes of money the moment we signed them when they have been arguably better signings at a lower cost in total than the guy you really wanted (who to be fair, would have also turned out to be a good signing). Just admit you were wrong on Tauchman & Slater so can end this debate once and for all. 6 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Yanks seemed like a logical trading partner to me, but I would've expected a pitcher and a bat going to them. Hopefully Getz asked about Spencer Jones for Houser/Slater(or whoever) or even proposed Houser + Robert. Didn't think Slater was going to return anything at all, but I've actually heard this guy's name before so he must he good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: This is an absurd post. Getz signed Slater right out of the gate, dude delivered as hoped, and now has returned a prospect ranked 18th in the Yankees system by BA. We have no fucking clue if Hayes would even have considered signing with us coming off a historically bad season and what that would have cost. And honestly, Tauchman is the guy you should be comparing him to because Hayes wasn’t coming here for a platoon role. Meanwhile, Tauchman has performed nearly identical to Hayes at less than half the cost and with an extra year of control. The fact of the matter is you called both Slater and Tauchman garbage additions and wastes of money the moment we signed them when they have been arguably better signings at a lower cost in total than the guy you really wanted (who to be fair, would have also turned out to be a good signing). Just admit you were wrong on Tauchman & Slater so can end this debate once and for all. I wanted Hays. I’m glad that Slater returned what he did but it’s clear that Hays would have returned more. If the Sox can’t even sign an outfielder like Hays coming back from a terrible season to a 1-year, $5 million dollar deal, what are we doing here? Also, take a look at the trade returns from last year. Two of the guys in the return are already retired. Getting your jollies off on these mediocre returns is most likely folly anyways, but you do you. Edited July 30 by WhiteSox2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I wanted Hays. I’m glad that Slater returned what he did but it’s clear that Hays would have returned more. If the Sox can’t even sign an outfielder like Hays coming back from a terrible season to a 1-year, $5 million dollar deal, what are we doing here? Also, take a look at the trade returns from last year. Two of the guys in the return are already retired. Getting your jollies off on these mediocre returns is most likely folly anyways, but you do you. Zeihl isn't a "mediocre" return. And talking about jollies, you remind us every other day that a guy retired from baseball this year. You always forget to mention that another trade from that same period netted us our 13th best prospect in Bergolla. Every single trade isn't going to net a hall-of-famer. The point is to amass a quantity of prospects, and then a couple of them will succeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Zeihl isn't a "mediocre" return. And talking about jollies, you remind us every other day that a guy retired from baseball this year. You always forget to mention that another trade from that same period netted us our 13th best prospect in Bergolla. Every single trade isn't going to net a hall-of-famer. The point is to amass a quantity of prospects, and then a couple of them will succeed. Two guys retired actually. And hopefully Bergolla finds some power at some point. I’m just not seeing how these moves are leading to the next WS for this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox guy Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Is he related to former Met Todd Good trade, I like it. Solid prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Two guys retired actually. And hopefully Bergolla finds some power at some point. I’m just not seeing how these moves are leading to the next WS for this team. Not every prospect needs to be top 100. Just having depth and guys other organizations feel they could use is valuable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, Sox guy said: Is he related to former Met Todd Good trade, I like it. Solid prospect Different spelling Ziele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 53 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I wanted Hays. I’m glad that Slater returned what he did but it’s clear that Hays would have returned more. If the Sox can’t even sign an outfielder like Hays coming back from a terrible season to a 1-year, $5 million dollar deal, what are we doing here? Also, take a look at the trade returns from last year. Two of the guys in the return are already retired. Getting your jollies off on these mediocre returns is most likely folly anyways, but you do you. Which manager would a vet want to play for, comparatively? HoFer or first year guy? Which superstar, as who is our Elly de la Cruz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: Turn on WFAN get outside the JR box as a fan. I’m shading however I please! The Yankees should be doing better. My take on Yankee fans thoughts on this is they don’t give a s%*# about what they gave up, but what they acquired. They were hoping for something better than Slater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Good trade for the Sox on paper and Slater might be a useful piece for the Yankees down the stretch. Seems pretty simple. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: On a team with a better roster, that will change: 100% this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: 100% this. It was kind of a need/necessity when he played against RHP. A lot of injuries to OF early on (Benintendi and Tauchman opened on IL, Robert also hit IL, Tauchman hit IL again, etc) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Thank you for the Opening Day homer, Austin. It was cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I'm pleasantly surprised the Sox got a ranked guy for Slater. Solid move that payed off for Getz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Slater turned out to be a pretty good hitter, but of course not a long time fit for the Sox. Its hard to complain about Getz on signing him or the return for trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said: Robertson up from AAA 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Exactly…wish we were in a position where we could trade a 4th round pick to improve our World Series chances. Can I interest you in trading them for older relievers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Ziehl a 4th rounder from last year. He might be better than Hagan Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, bighurt574 said: Just noticed that Spencer Jones is having a big year in AA/AAA. I know a lot of folks weren't sold on him when his name came up in the past (last year?). Have you seen this man hit? I hadn't until a couple weeks ago. I've never been more confident in a guy not translating to be the bigs leagues than I was after watching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Have you seen this man hit? I hadn't until a couple weeks ago. I've never been more confident in a guy not translating to be the bigs leagues than I was after watching that. He looks like the lefty Judge, but I get the question marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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