caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 https://global.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45947026/mlb-rank-2025-season-update-top-50-baseball-players-judge-ohtani-skubal-raleigh Acuna would have made it for ATL but has missed too much time. No Brewers. No relievers. Crochet and Tatis, Jr., two former Sox properties at #10 and #13. PCA #7 Tucker #11 Skubal Witt Jr. Jose Ramirez in Top 8 Buxton mid 20s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: https://global.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45947026/mlb-rank-2025-season-update-top-50-baseball-players-judge-ohtani-skubal-raleigh Acuna would have made it for ATL but has missed too much time. No Brewers. No relievers. Crochet and Tatis, Jr., two former Sox properties at #10 and #13. PCA #7 Tucker #11 Skubal Witt Jr. Jose Ramirez in Top 8 Buxton mid 20s No real surprise though given the lack of overall talent on the big league roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Not surprising. Im of the opinion that the next franchise player/star player for the Sox isn’t in the system yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 The White Sox, amidst the early stages of a rebuild, don’t have a top 100 player? You don’t say. This should not be a surprise to anyone, nor is it particularly newsworthy. Certainly not deserving of its own thread, except for those amongst us addicted to starting pointless threads… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 14 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: Not surprising. Im of the opinion that the next franchise player/star player for the Sox isn’t in the system yet. That's pretty scary for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltwilliams Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 21 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: Not surprising. Im of the opinion that the next franchise player/star player for the Sox isn’t in the system yet. Colson might be that guy, if he can solve his strikeout issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 If this rebuild is going anywhere soon, you need at least one of, if not both of Schultz and Smith to be those guys. If they aren't... Ooof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 32 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If this rebuild is going anywhere soon, you need at least one of, if not both of Schultz and Smith to be those guys. If they aren't... Ooof. which could be future trade pieces to make up for their lack of development or wanting a nice contract it's not like the Sox are alone in this. The A's may be the best farm system for MLB in decades. I can only think that an A's fan who realizes ever good player the comes up is basically a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: The White Sox, amidst the early stages of a rebuild, don’t have a top 100 player? You don’t say. This should not be a surprise to anyone, nor is it particularly newsworthy. Certainly not deserving of its own thread, except for those amongst us addicted to starting pointless threads… A lot of those guys are household names that a casual fan will recognize. I look at the Rays and now the Brewers and I couldn't tell you their star players. With an MLB sub the casual fan wouldn't specifically watch those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Well if Colson is really a 125 wRC+ guy that plays a fine SS that's a 5 WAR player and he'll be in there next year. We'll see. Him coming out of the gate like he has, and it's not just a fluke, his statcast is lit up with deep red, has been a huge boost to the rebuild. If you suddenly have a 3-5 WAR SS that sure as hell jumpstarts things. Edited August 12 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 54 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: which could be future trade pieces to make up for their lack of development or wanting a nice contract it's not like the Sox are alone in this. The A's may be the best farm system for MLB in decades. I can only think that an A's fan who realizes ever good player the comes up is basically a rental. Sure, but the Sox are also chasing all of MLB right now, except the Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Sure, but the Sox are also chasing all of MLB right now, except the Rockies. We passed Pit in wRC+ but we're 42 runs worse defensively. We're still 2nd to last in positon player fWAR. Even the Nats have almost double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, kitekrazy said: which could be future trade pieces to make up for their lack of development or wanting a nice contract it's not like the Sox are alone in this. The A's may be the best farm system for MLB in decades. I can only think that an A's fan who realizes ever good player the comes up is basically a rental. Rooker and Butler already signed to an extension, wouldn't be all that surprised if Langeliers Wilson Kurtz de Vries are next. Note Kurtz from last year's draft already Top 50. One of Hagen or Schultz has to make this Top 100 or the rebuild is screwed as the Sox simply don't buy or rent quality pitching anymore. Presumably Sale Rodon maybe Giolito Cease all in that back end of the Top 100. Dylan Cease is still the #8 FA available despite another off year in terms of W/L and walks. Looking like a good "buy lower" candidate for 2026 FA in the $175-225 million range depending on years. Coming off 2024, $250-275 million looked quite possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Rooker and Butler already signed to an extension, wouldn't be all that surprised if Langeliers Wilson Kurtz de Vries are next. Note Kurtz from last year's draft already Top 50. One of Hagen or Schultz has to make this Top 100 or the rebuild is screwed as the Sox simply don't buy or rent quality pitching anymore. Presumably Sale Rodon maybe Giolito Cease all in that back end of the Top 100. Dylan Cease is still the #8 FA available despite another off year in terms of W/L and walks. Looking like a good "buy lower" candidate for 2026 FA in the $175-225 million range depending on years. Coming off 2024, $250-275 million looked quite possible. Fuhgeddaboudit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 13 Author Share Posted August 13 Also, note the position/s of Kyle Stowers and Yordan Alvarez, missing with Acuna Jr. Alvarez and Sosa are probably the two best pure hitters of this generation. Also, Mookie Betts just doesn't hit below 70s for a full season. But he has been off since losing 15-20 pounds due to illness first two weeks of the season ( Japan trip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Fuhgeddaboudit. I didn't know Schultz hasn't pitched in about six weeks because of a bad knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 12 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Alvarez and Sosa are probably the two best pure hitters of this generation. Dang, you are REALLY high on Lenyn. But seriously, who did you actually mean when you said Sosa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 18 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: That's pretty scary for the future. Unless the Sox can copy the Brewers’ model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 8/12/2025 at 1:21 PM, southsider2k5 said: That's pretty scary for the future. I don’t think that’s scary, especially when the team should have a very high draft pick next year, based on odds. I think there’s guys in the draft next year, who could be that guy for them. Roch Cholowsky, Justin LeBron, Grady Emerson, and Jacob Lombard specifically. I think Cholowsky is the best of the group and he could be like Bregman and be up in 2027 out the gate. I should add that I was specifically talking about position players with my comment 20 hours ago, GreenSox said: Unless the Sox can copy the Brewers’ model. The Brewers have Jackson Chourio, Christian Yelich and Jackson Misiorowski. They’re loaded with stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 20 hours ago, Snopek said: Dang, you are REALLY high on Lenyn. But seriously, who did you actually mean when you said Sosa? Soto, Juan. Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 10 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: I don’t think that’s scary, especially when the team should have a very high draft pick next year, based on odds. I think there’s guys in the draft next year, who could be that guy for them. Roch Cholowsky, Justin LeBron, Grady Emerson, and Jacob Lombard specifically. I think Cholowsky is the best of the group and he could be like Bregman and be up in 2027 out the gate. I should add that I was specifically talking about position players with my comment The Brewers have Jackson Chourio, Christian Yelich and Jackson Misiorowski. They’re loaded with stars Yelich is well past his 2019-20 prime, has had lots of injuries and Miz was barely in the Top 100 and could blow out an elbow at any time, but Chourio really could be great if he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Seeing PCA at #7 is crazy considering he's had about 3/4 of a season of success. Makes me wonder if Colson's improvement and MLB promotion had happened at the beginning of the season if he'd be in the top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 8/12/2025 at 1:07 PM, Boopa1219 said: Not surprising. Im of the opinion that the next franchise player/star player for the Sox isn’t in the system yet. Not sure I agree. Taylor Schultz or Hagen Smith could be top 100 if one of them puts it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: Seeing PCA at #7 is crazy considering he's had about 3/4 of a season of success. Makes me wonder if Colson's improvement and MLB promotion had happened at the beginning of the season if he'd be in the top 100. What’s his current slump, something like 2/34 coming into yesterday’s games? He and Tucker have both just disappeared as offensive forces, except for a few walks. If both those guys were on the White Sox instead, probably ranked in the thirties or low 40s, lol. Edited August 14 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 17 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: What’s his current slump, something like 2/34 coming into yesterday’s games? He and Tucker have both just disappeared as offensive forces, except for a few walks. If both those guys were on the White Sox instead, probably ranked in the thirties or low 40s, lol. Yeah, Tucker at least has a longer history of being an impact player. PCA's slump is probably an overcorrection. He's definitely not as bad as he has been, but I doubt he's as good as he was. Still a good player, but not the savior of Chicago sports. And you're right about if those guys were on the Sox. They'd be ranked much lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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