greg775 Posted Saturday at 08:02 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:02 PM If sports truly are fixed (not saying they are) this could be a sign the Sox new owner deserves a winner. We get the No. 1 pick to go with Colson and that's two Bobby Witt's on one team in a bad division. We need our GM to start stockpiling a ton of average 4 inning pitchers who can be inserted in and out by our manager cause we'll never have the money to keep a Sale or Cease or guys like that. Get guys who can get thru the order once and revolutionize small market pitching staffs (oh for the days of Peters, Horlen, Fergie, Bob Gibson, Juan Marachal who could give u 8-9 innings a night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Saturday at 08:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:27 PM 24 minutes ago, greg775 said: If sports truly are fixed (not saying they are) this could be a sign the Sox new owner deserves a winner. We get the No. 1 pick to go with Colson and that's two Bobby Witt's on one team in a bad division. We need our GM to start stockpiling a ton of average 4 inning pitchers who can be inserted in and out by our manager cause we'll never have the money to keep a Sale or Cease or guys like that. Get guys who can get thru the order once and revolutionize small market pitching staffs (oh for the days of Peters, Horlen, Fergie, Bob Gibson, Juan Marachal who could give u 8-9 innings a night. The #1 pick wasn’t really a fix. We had the best odds at almost 30% lol this isn’t like the Guardians having a 2% chance at #1 pick 2 years ago and landing it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted Saturday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:24 PM (edited) On 12/12/2025 at 5:02 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I guess I don’t get why it’s interesting. If you take a guy who can play a competent SS or plus 3B and you put them at 1B, you are not optimizing their value. At that point, you either trade them or someone else to ensure they are in the right spot on the field. Now, if Colson needs to move to 1B due to health issues (back) that’s a different story, but I’d call that unfortunate moreso than interesting. Its just speculation based on a lot of things going right. If Carlson is the best fielder who can also hit he's the SS. Colson is chosen for 1st because he fits the physical profile more than Cholowski which leaves Roch at 3rd base. Why would Colson's value be diminished if he can hit the same at 1st as he does at SS but SS has a better fielder and 1st base has possibly the best defense it can also get from anyone on the roster ? Sometimes you forget this is a team game. It's not about building 1 player's value at the expense of the team's value. It's the little things that make the difference in winning and losing . Sure he'd need to learn the rope at 1st but he can field groundballs, go back on pop ups like a SS. He can snag high line drives, stretch far forward and wide because of his height. He can turn a 1st to 2nd to 1st DP and be a strong cutoff man because of his arm. As a tall guy who has already experienced back problems at a young age you also may be increasing his value by doing things that are not as stressful to his back. Availability is a very valuable ability. Baseball talk man. The more your best players are on the field the more valuable your TEAM. Optimize their individual physical traits to maximize team performance. Its a long sesdon and physically demanding with all the twisting and turning that playing SS and swinging a weight (a bat ) while twisting your hips as fast as you can. Maybe Robert couldve been a great player if he had understood along with bulking up he also needed flexibility and core strength. Or on the flip side some bodies cannot handle extra muscle/weight genetically when put in a physically demanding position. Those are things you need a lot more data on about family medical history but unfortunately theres not much info except for 1 or 2 generations back. Edited Saturday at 09:45 PM by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted Saturday at 10:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:05 PM On 12/12/2025 at 1:05 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said: Roch beats Carlson to the big leagues Sure, but this was taking into consideration that they're all playing on the same roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted Saturday at 10:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:06 PM (edited) 23 hours ago, greg775 said: Do the Sox have the money to give him a proper signing bonus, etc? With the #1 pick, the Sox also get the largest amount of bonus pool money. They are NOT going to skip over the person they like best because of signing bonus money. Edited yesterday at 05:33 AM by 77 Hitmen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted yesterday at 12:47 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:47 PM 14 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said: With the #1 pick, the Sox also get the largest amount of bonus pool money. They are NOT going to skip over the person they like best because of signing bonus money. A lot of dipshits think they will though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted yesterday at 01:09 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:09 PM (edited) 23 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: A lot of dipshits think they will though. Who? One poster that had a question about the Sox draft money/resources? No. Jerry is cheap in free agency. We all know this. However, the draft costs a pittance. I’m sure he loves it. Edited yesterday at 01:11 PM by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted yesterday at 02:29 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:29 PM 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Who? One poster that had a question about the Sox draft money/resources? No. Jerry is cheap in free agency. We all know this. However, the draft costs a pittance. I’m sure he loves it. Twitter is full of it. Even dinguses saying they will trade the pick like that’s a real thing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted yesterday at 03:54 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:54 PM 3 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: A lot of dipshits think they will though. The draft IS the one place where the Sox do spend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 04:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:17 PM 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The draft IS the one place where the Sox do spend. MLB pretty much mandates it now with the onerous penalties for not signing players. Exceptions to fully utilizing draft pools on the first five rounds of picks are few and far between these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted yesterday at 04:24 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:24 PM 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: MLB pretty much mandates it now with the onerous penalties for not signing players. Exceptions to fully utilizing draft pools on the first five rounds of picks are few and far between these days. The Sox always go up to their 5% overage, not the minimums 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 06:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:03 PM 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: The Sox always go up to their 5% overage, not the minimums Doesn't the penalty for underspending carry over to the following season still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Doesn't the penalty for underspending carry over to the following season still? Underspending? In the draft? I don’t think that penalty exists for the draft. If you’re talking about revenue sharing receivers, if they underspend, the penalty is that they lose their share of revenue sharing. There are no draft picks involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted yesterday at 07:22 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:22 PM 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Doesn't the penalty for underspending carry over to the following season still? I have no idea what you are talking about. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted yesterday at 07:25 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:25 PM 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I have no idea what you are talking about. The default reaction to most of his posts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted yesterday at 07:52 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:52 PM On 12/12/2025 at 7:16 AM, southsider2k5 said: If all of these guys do miraculously make it, there are plenty of OF spots up for grabs too. A guy like Carlson could translate to CF, Monty to a corner, and Bonny is already being mentioned as a future LF. Carlson can’t play second? Or maybe they just keep Meidroth and trade Carlson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: The draft IS the one place where the Sox do spend. Before draft slot era, thier draft spending could be questioned, but not since. There are plenty of areas they deserve citicism, but spending thier draft allowance isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Before draft slot era, thier draft spending could be questioned, but not since. There are plenty of areas they deserve citicism, but spending thier draft allowance isn't one. Once Reinsdorf got the system in place he wanted, the Sox became draft pool monsters. Before that, there was a short period they had real trouble coming to terms with high draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Carlson can’t play second? Or maybe they just keep Meidroth and trade Carlson. I am sure he could. But again; he's probably 3 years away, and, he's supposed to be a gold glove level defender. He'd be more valuable in CF vs 2b in my completely made up scenario to say that all of these guys don't have to be IFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Carlson can’t play second? Or maybe they just keep Meidroth and trade Carlson. SS can generally play any position other than C or P. I wouldn’t be too worried the Sox draft too many SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am sure he could. But again; he's probably 3 years away, and, he's supposed to be a gold glove level defender. He'd be more valuable in CF vs 2b in my completely made up scenario to say that all of these guys don't have to be IFs. Careful. There's thought police here who don't like people hypothesizing situations for players already in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 40 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Careful. There's thought police here who don't like people hypothesizing situations for players already in the system. But it would be a Getz victory, so you would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: SS can generally play any position other than C or P. I wouldn’t be too worried the Sox draft too many SS. You can never have too many shortstops 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakke Appling Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: You can never have too many shortstops This is missing an arrow from SS to C. It’s called the TA line. im sorry but that will never stop being funny (to me) Edited 20 hours ago by Lukakke Appling 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) The entire fortune of the organization just changed drastically. The 2025 Sox just had one of the best possible years for a rebuilding team. They found a manager with exciting potential, they identified the foundation of an exciting core of guys, and they landed the first overall pick, in a draft with two elite talents at the top in the best draft class in several years. Rebuilds mean nothing if ownership doesn’t spend the money to augment the roster, but the is rebuild is super promising. Edited 14 hours ago by Boopa1219 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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