2 minutes ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

He'd ruin the magic wand, though.

That would be an additional benefit. 🤣

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14 minutes ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

He'd ruin the magic wand, though.

The power of friendship would win him over.

4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

The power of friendship would win him over.

He’s a master of karate and friendship for everyone.

15 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

What a strange ass trade. Salary dump for Tigers, but why the f*** do the orioles want him? We could have done better. Rogers is a strong leader and solid behind the dish, he'd be better than Romo and Quero despite him not being good either.

If they are talking about moving Adley

I see White Sox twitter is taking the Twins trade last night well...

Just want to see this with the white Sox.

1 hour ago, bmags said:

Pretty sure we should trade for Skubal. Gives the team the good feelings into the lockout, gives Jerry the playoff revenue to justify a signing post lockout. Won’t cost big time. Makes the most sense.

With their low payroll commitments for next year, they should be a threat to sign him in the offseason. Keyword being "should."

9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

With their low payroll commitments for next year, they should be a threat to sign him in the offseason. Keyword being "should."

Yeah - but key for me is that doesn't even matter. He's now looking like the most impact player for 2026 but isn't coming as the most sought after. Everyone is telegraphing his move to Dodgers - so there is no illusion you get a benefit of having him to negotiate. The tigers HAVE to trade him. It's all depressing it. And it feels like the best deadline deals have always been 'top pitcher with depressed value due to age/salary/control' where they don't get a 'haul' but the team gets big impact.

I'd think if we included a Schulz you easily top any offer. We cry about a pitching prospect who hasn't looked tops in a while and instead get a top pitcher this year that takes us to playoffs. The tigers say 'wow we got a top pitching prospect for a guy we were gonna lose?" and I say 'trade top pitching prospects instead of position players'. Schulz + Boston Smith + Jeral Perez - i'm not sure that gets topped.

1 hour ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

He'd ruin the magic wand, though.

Everyone hates a magician when they are on the other team - they want their own magician deep down. See Jonathan Strange + Mr Norrell

3 minutes ago, Baron said:

I feel like trade rumors have become more boring. They report on them all as a cattle market. 'Here's all the cattle, and here are the people at the cattle market'. Lost all the individual chasing.

34 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If they are talking about moving Adley

Or his wrist is worse than they hoped originally. I'm very curious to see if they move him after seemingly being annointed the best catcher to ever live by O's fans since before he came into the league. He would be such a massive upgrade here though even if his current slash lines dwindle a bit, his defense is that good.

5 minutes ago, Baron said:

Just send Skubal to the Dodgers. Rip the bandaid off, get it over with, so the rest of us can fight over the rest.

1 minute ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

Just send Skubal to the Dodgers. Rip the bandaid off, get it over with, so the rest of us can fight over the rest.

I would like David Stern to disallow that trade.

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I just read this article and conceptually adding Hagen & McDougal make sense. I’m just confused on how we add all three of those guys plus Fedde (potentially) from a tactical standpoint. In my mind, we have six relievers that are more or less roster locks in Taylor, Hicks, Dominguez, Hudson, Newcomb, & Murphy. I think Schweitzer is very much replaceable with one of McDougal or Smith. And Richards has been pretty solid as a mop-up guy and not sure if Fedde is even an upgrade (which is ok). Post-season roster wise, you can probably replace your long man with one of Smith or McDougal, although either guy would need some major league seasoning beforehand. Great ideas but hard to pull it all off.

I do wonder if there is an ability to do some buying and selling here. Would they sell one of their LH relievers in a constrained market (and replace with Hagen) to help offset part of the prospect cost needed to add a controllable SP? It’s going to be interesting to see what Getz does here because I keep hearing we are going to see more teams doing both buying & selling this year due to how limited certain markets are.

Completely agree. The bullpen is actually pretty good and like you said, Richards is solid in his mop-up role.

And this is another part of why I've been annoyed by the "make every starter prospect a reliever" strategy. Mason Adams could very well be an upgrade over Schultz/Fedde in the rotation. McDougal was brought back as a reliever because they said he wouldn't be fully stretched out until mid-August... well guess what, that's only ~14 days away and he's still in AAA anyway, so you might as well have stretched him out and added him to the MLB rotation. He needs the innings too...

22 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Completely agree. The bullpen is actually pretty good and like you said, Richards is solid in his mop-up role.

And this is another part of why I've been annoyed by the "make every starter prospect a reliever" strategy. Mason Adams could very well be an upgrade over Schultz/Fedde in the rotation. McDougal was brought back as a reliever because they said he wouldn't be fully stretched out until mid-August... well guess what, that's only ~14 days away and he's still in AAA anyway, so you might as well have stretched him out and added him to the MLB rotation. He needs the innings too...

The fact they were able to turn Crochet into a starter may have led to some overconfidence. But I do think part of the interest in Mason Miller isn't just 'wow dominant backend guy' but 'if we don't get a solid guy here we'll never be able to convert taylor'

Rick Hahn about to negotiate a Tarik Skubal deal on MLB network

1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said:

Completely agree. The bullpen is actually pretty good and like you said, Richards is solid in his mop-up role.

And this is another part of why I've been annoyed by the "make every starter prospect a reliever" strategy. Mason Adams could very well be an upgrade over Schultz/Fedde in the rotation. McDougal was brought back as a reliever because they said he wouldn't be fully stretched out until mid-August... well guess what, that's only ~14 days away and he's still in AAA anyway, so you might as well have stretched him out and added him to the MLB rotation. He needs the innings too...

Agree with you completely on McDougal.

Just now, striker said:

Same. Trading any prospect is going to sting, but that guy has done nothing but rake at every level in his professional debut.

I guess the concern with his profile is that he strikes out a lot. But he also walks a lot and hits for a lot of power. He might also not stick at catcher, which will affect his value as a prospect. He's also 23...so if he doesn't keep progressing like he has down in the minors, he might lose his prospect status in 2 years.

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2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I guess the concern with his profile is that he strikes out a lot. But he also walks a lot and hits for a lot of power. He might also not stick at catcher, which will affect his value as a prospect. He's also 23...so if he doesn't keep progressing like he has down in the minors, he might lose his prospect status in 2 years.

I definitely think there is likely major risk and he may be more of an eventual AAAA player. I won't pretend to know his dynamics around the tools they see in terms of swing speed, etc.

5 minutes ago, Quin said:

I do also think is probable.

There's definitely some sunk cost fallacy when it comes to him. We traded Curtis Mead for him, who just got the Nationals a top 50 prospect. So there's probably a feel like we need to get something of real value out of him because we traded so much away.

14 minutes ago, chw42 said:

There's definitely some sunk cost fallacy when it comes to him. We traded Curtis Mead for him, who just got the Nationals a top 50 prospect. So there's probably a feel like we need to get something of real value out of him because we traded so much away.

Same with the Mets and Peralta