58 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Playing for a bye.

Exactly, if you have to play on the road at least they have won games in Cleveland definitely do not want to have to play at Houston with them having home field. They have owned the Sox for years.

51 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

Any update on Colson's wrist ?

Sun-Times said he's probably not playing Friday. Wrist is still to sore.

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I never said the Sox couldn’t afford it.

5-years, $75 million.

All you need to do is look at history.

That's not all you need to do. Sox would've signed Harper or Machado for something like $300mil+. The Sox consistently have higher payrolls than the Tigers. It's not a matter of "affording" it's more likely a matter of the previous front office thinking it wasn't worth it to invest that much money into one player. "Looking at history" is why this board is always wrong.

2 minutes ago, nrockway said:

That's not all you need to do. Sox would've signed Harper or Machado for something like $300mil+. The Sox consistently have higher payrolls than the Tigers. It's not a matter of "affording" it's more likely a matter of the previous front office thinking it wasn't worth it to invest that much money into one player. "Looking at history" is why this board is always wrong.

Did they when Mike Illitch owned Detroit?

Given the Sox have had the same owner since 1981 and that his approach and principals haven't changed looking at Sox history in trying to get a sense of what will happen in the future is not "always wrong..."

7 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Did they when Mike Illitch owned Detroit?

Given the Sox have had the same owner since 1981 and that his approach and principals haven't changed looking at Sox history in trying to get a sense of what will happen in the future is not "always wrong..."

You guys regularly fart on every string with a hearty, "just look at the history, that'll never happen..." The Sox have been high bidder on players who had a market. They've extended guys like Buehrle, Danks, Lynn, they won bidding on Thome and Dunn, matched Konerko's market offer from the Angels. They also tried to get ahead of the market and wrap up guys like Yoan, Eloy, Robert and TA7. Didn't work out, but they sure spent that money.

Do they pull in 3 top FAs every off-season? No, that would be bad business. It's stupid to keep filling the roster with guys at the top of their market for contracts that demand top dollar for 1-2 healthy seasons, then 4 more under average ones. We'll see what Getz's model looks like, but I'd imagine it's develop from within, then fill holes.

Signing the largest contract doesn't have a banner that hangs forever. Championships do.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WestEddy

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

You guys regularly fart on every string with a hearty, "just look at the history, that'll never happen..." The Sox have been high bidder on players who had a market. They've extended guys like Buehrle, Danks, Lynn, they won bidding on Thome and Dunn, matched Konerko's market offer from the Angels. They also tried to get ahead of the market and wrap up guys like Yoan, Eloy, Robert and TA7. Didn't work out, but they sure spent that money.

Do they pull in 3 top FAs every off-season? No, that would be bad business. It's stupid to keep filling the roster with guys at the top of their market for contracts that demand top dollar for 1-2 healthy seasons, then 4 more under average ones. We'll see what Getz's model looks like, but I'd imagine it's develop from within, then fill holes.

Signing the largest contract doesn't have a banner that hangs forever. Championships do.

Aside from the last few years, the Sox had higher payrolls. The problem has been they spend money on the wrong guys. They could have paid Machado or Harper and were apparently close on Machado. Other than reportedly being in on Machado, they haven't been "in" on major free agents. I think it's less about the dollars and more about the length of contracts.

23 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

You guys regularly fart on every string with a hearty, "just look at the history, that'll never happen..." The Sox have been high bidder on players who had a market. They've extended guys like Buehrle, Danks, Lynn, they won bidding on Thome and Dunn, matched Konerko's market offer from the Angels. They also tried to get ahead of the market and wrap up guys like Yoan, Eloy, Robert and TA7. Didn't work out, but they sure spent that money.

Do they pull in 3 top FAs every off-season? No, that would be bad business. It's stupid to keep filling the roster with guys at the top of their market for contracts that demand top dollar for 1-2 healthy seasons, then 4 more under average ones. We'll see what Getz's model looks like, but I'd imagine it's develop from within, then fill holes.

Signing the largest contract doesn't have a banner that hangs forever. Championships do.

Still haven’t signed anyone to a 20 million a year contract or 100 million total salary.

Manny Machado hitting in the .230's.

46 minutes ago, nrockway said:

That's not all you need to do. Sox would've signed Harper or Machado for something like $300mil+. The Sox consistently have higher payrolls than the Tigers. It's not a matter of "affording" it's more likely a matter of the previous front office thinking it wasn't worth it to invest that much money into one player. "Looking at history" is why this board is always wrong.

But ultimately, the Sox didn’t sign either of them. I can say I had an offer out to Ohtani, but we just didn’t manage to sign him. Big fucking deal. Have a cookie.

Your awful takes are what’s always wrong.

Edited 56 minutes ago56 min by WhiteSox2023

7 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Manny Machado hitting in the .230's.

Lmao this is his 8th season as a Padre and by far his worst(even though he is .2WAR away from replacement level), and I don’t think they would change signing him considering how good he has been for them

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

That's not all you need to do. Sox would've signed Harper or Machado for something like $300mil+. The Sox consistently have higher payrolls than the Tigers. It's not a matter of "affording" it's more likely a matter of the previous front office thinking it wasn't worth it to invest that much money into one player. "Looking at history" is why this board is always wrong.

Since when? Going back 10 years (11 seasons) the Sox look like they have been higher than Detroit 4 times (20/21 and 23/24, and have the top 3 highest individual season between the two teams. This past year alone Detroit is $120 million higher. Detroit has had a payroll over 100 million dollars MORE than the Sox twice during that span, including this season of about $120 million greater, and $70 million greaters in 25, under "this administration"

49 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

You guys regularly fart on every string with a hearty, "just look at the history, that'll never happen..." The Sox have been high bidder on players who had a market. They've extended guys like Buehrle, Danks, Lynn, they won bidding on Thome and Dunn, matched Konerko's market offer from the Angels. They also tried to get ahead of the market and wrap up guys like Yoan, Eloy, Robert and TA7. Didn't work out, but they sure spent that money.

Do they pull in 3 top FAs every off-season? No, that would be bad business. It's stupid to keep filling the roster with guys at the top of their market for contracts that demand top dollar for 1-2 healthy seasons, then 4 more under average ones. We'll see what Getz's model looks like, but I'd imagine it's develop from within, then fill holes.

Signing the largest contract doesn't have a banner that hangs forever. Championships do.

The irony is the Sox have done each once in the almost 50 year Jerry Reindsdorf era. Albert Belle and 2005.

2 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Did we know he was this weird last year?

17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Lmao this is his 8th season as a Padre and by far his worst(even though he is .2WAR away from replacement level), and I don’t think they would change signing him considering how good he has been for them

There was a write up earlier this year where essentially if he put up no more WAR from the rest of this contract, he has already paid off this contract with the value he has given them over the first half of it.

28 minutes ago, fathom said:

Still haven’t signed anyone to a 20 million a year contract or 100 million total salary.

But that’s because the Sox are smart, not cheap. 🤣

2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Did we know he was this weird last year?

he can be as weird as he wants if he keeps up a 2.50 era in 101 IP.

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

But that’s because the Sox are smart, not cheap. 🤣

I think you got those two things backwards.

Colson back in

30 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Manny Machado hitting in the .230's.

Have you been in a coma since 2019?

Sam sitting a 3rd straight game. Is he being punished for his poor route in the outfield against CLE.

5 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

he can be as weird as he wants if he keeps up a 2.50 era in 101 IP.

Oh yeah I don't care at all. He just seemed like a good, fiery guy last year. Had no idea he was a goofball.

5 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Colson back in

Why is Pham getting playing time over Antonacci?? I swear Venable trying to lose this thing

3 minutes ago, HoosierSox said:

Sam sitting a 3rd straight game. Is he being punished for his poor route in the outfield against CLE.

I thought the same thing. Could it be that Sam took it upon himself to position himself in short left field when the team wanted him playing deeper? I have heard some small chatter about that. Interesting