santo=dorf Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 There's a case involving the Cubs and White Sox on Judge Mathis right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Thanx for ur great defense Aaron. Good luck in Philly, tough loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) green? Â Â I'm either a complete bonehead...or it's the fact that the green feature won't work on a mac. Probably a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Ross Gload can play 1B and maybe some OF. Ozuna can play anywhere and Widger can play Catcher and a mean 3B. Frank can DH. Evertime you pinch hit with Frank you have to use another guy off the bench. So frank takes up 2 bench spots. No thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. But, I feel like we kinda owe it to Frank to bring him back IF he's healthy. He has earned that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Have we yet become sure it's Gio and not a PTBNL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Arow is a great defensive CF. However, I think he is a lot like Edmonds in that he makes SOME plays look tougher than they are. Still Rowand is probably in the top five defensive CFers in the game. Still, he is replaceable as much as I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) There's a case involving the Cubs and White Sox on Judge Mathis right now. Â Â Judge Mathis!! Â Â I used to work for that show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Anybody got a definate number on the amount of cash in return?!?...$24M?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Arow is a great defensive CF. However, I think he is a lot like Edmonds in that he makes SOME plays look tougher than they are. Still Rowand is probably in the top five defensive CFers in the game. Still, he is replaceable as much as I like him.  Exactly. Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I like it. If we didn't sign Paulie, we were in some fairly big trouble next year on offense. Now we have protection and can still be aggressive. I would dislike this trade if it involved the starting staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:49 PM) Agreed. But, I feel like we kinda owe it to Frank to bring him back IF he's healthy. He has earned that. Not really. You do what's best for the team not what's best for a player who's been around for a long time. Keeping players around when they're well past their prime has gotten many a GM fired. Frank was great for the Sox for 15 seasons but he's been gone for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Haigwood, 22, had a breakout year in 2005, rapidly elevating his status in the White Sox organization. Drafted in the 16th round in 2002, the 6-2 lefty impressed between high A Winston-Salem and AA Birmingham, putting up a combined 14-3 record with a 2.82 ERA. After moving to Birmingham, Haigwood wowed the Southern League, going 6-1 with a 1.74 ERA and a BAA of .170. Haigwood allowed only 39 hits in over 67 innings of work. Haigwood draws comparisons to Mark Buehrle, working fast with a bevy of pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) There's a case involving the Cubs and White Sox on Judge Mathis right now. keep us updated.. Â Like if Mr. T comes out and say "I pity tha fool" or something. Â Maybe "it's peanutbutter and Jelly time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(Wanne @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Anybody got a definate number on the amount of cash in return?!?...$24M?!? white sox will pay half of the 12.5 due to thome in 06 and half the 14 mil due the following two seasons. so we just got thome for 20 mil for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Alright, i just got back and trying to sort all of this in my mind, but on the surface this looks like a very solid deal. Â Arow was on my top 3 favorite players, i hate losing him, but this solidifies our team during the offseason. If we don't get konerko, at least we have a backup now. BUT, if we can find the money to resign paulie, this deal is a steal and a half and i can't see how we wouldn't be world series favorites. Thise lineup would be sick with thome and konerko in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Have we yet become sure it's Gio and not a PTBNL? It is a PTBNL and according to the 100% always correct source known as Bruce Levine, it will be Gio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Just wondering, how could this make Konerko come back. Could this spell the end of him? Could Konerko see Thome as a replacement for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) Just wondering, how could this make Konerko come back. Could this spell the end of him? Could Konerko see Thome as a replacement for him? Konerko should want to come back more now that he has legit protection in the lineup in Thome. Thomas is more than likely done with the Sox unless Konerko is not resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) white sox will pay half of the 12.5 due to thome in 06 and half the 14 mil due the following two seasons. so we just got thome for 20 mil for 3 years. Which if Thome is even moderately healthy...makes him an absolute bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Anyone hear anything new regarding a CF replacement? I.E. Pierre, Damon, J. Jones or are we just going to put Anderson out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Sox1422 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Look at the current starters. Only Buehrle and McCarthy were drafted by the Sox. You can always make moves to improve your minor league system.  Removing Haigwood and Gonzalez from our system hurts our pitching status years from now. Confounding problems is within the next two years, nearly our entire rotation will be eligible for FA. Neither may have been pitching in 07 or 08, but by that time either they're regressing or on the brink of promotion.  At 2008, either our payroll should be hovering around 95 million or there better be several prospects (both pitching and hitting) ready to contribute. It's going to become difficult finding the funds to keep our rotation entact. Honestly, I don't mind Thome--but I'm weary of our club handing over these particular prospects. Edited November 23, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) Just wondering, how could this make Konerko come back. Could this spell the end of him? Could Konerko see Thome as a replacement for him?   I'd think he'd be thrilled having Thome batting in front of him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) Anyone hear anything new regarding a CF replacement? I.E. Pierre, Damon, J. Jones or are we just going to put Anderson out there? You will not be seeing Damon or Jones on the Sox next year, I can gaurantee you that. Â Our number one option at this point would be Anderson with a possibility that we could trade for Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 gio and haigwood are just as replaceable as arow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) Just wondering, how could this make Konerko come back. Could this spell the end of him? Could Konerko see Thome as a replacement for him? I think the real key part of this is that it solves our DH problem in a cost-effective manner and reduces salary (assuming Anderson replaces Rowand in CF), thereby freeing up quite a bit of green that can be shoved in Konerko's way.  Think about this...we paid Carl Everett what, $4 million last season? We paid Aaron rowand what, $2 million or so? If you add up what those guys would make...that covers what we'll be paying of Thome's deal. Which means that the money saved by dropping Thomas's salary with the buyout is now officially freed up - we're not committing $12 million to Delgado or antyhing like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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