macsandz Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I think Kenny will be targeting Colby Rasmus. He'd be that left handed bat to help balance the lineup and his .860 OPS and .366 wOBA were first among full-time NL CFs. It would take a serious haul to acquire him as he is cost-controlled for 4 more years. Here is a nice article on Rasmus and his value: http://pinetarandpocketprotectors.wordpres...us-trade-value/ In that article they suggest a few possible deals: To the Yankees for: Brett Gardner, Manny Banuelos To the Braves for: Craig Kimbrel, Arodys Vizcaino, Omar Infante (one year until free agency) To the Blue Jays for: Shaun Marcum, Zach Stewart To the Marlins for: Mike Stanton straight up I think you can get a good feel for his value with these somewhat generic proposals. I would say to the White Sox for John Danks, Gregory Infante, Brandon Short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) I think Kenny will be targeting Colby Rasmus. He'd be that left handed bat to help balance the lineup and his .860 OPS and .366 wOBA were first among full-time NL CFs. It would take a serious haul to acquire him as he is cost-controlled for 4 more years. Here is a nice article on Rasmus and his value: http://pinetarandpocketprotectors.wordpres...us-trade-value/ In that article they suggest a few possible deals: To the Yankees for: Brett Gardner, Manny Banuelos To the Braves for: Craig Kimbrel, Arodys Vizcaino, Omar Infante (one year until free agency) To the Blue Jays for: Shaun Marcum, Zach Stewart To the Marlins for: Mike Stanton straight up I think you can get a good feel for his value with these somewhat generic proposals. I would say to the White Sox for John Danks, Gregory Infante, Brandon Short I write for that blog and the guy who wrote that isn't exactly the brightest... I had to edit the article to hell to make it look at least semi-professional. Half of those proposals don't make sense. Edited October 15, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) I write for that blog and the guy who wrote that isn't exactly the brightest... I had to edit the article to hell to make it look at least semi-professional. Half of those proposals don't make sense. My favorite line from the piece? "Science even shows that the human brain doesn’t stop developing until the age of 25 for most males. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Buehrle and prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 02:47 PM) Buehrle and prospects. I can tell you one thing that isn't happening with the Cardinals this year. They're not taking on salary. They have something of a large possible commitment coming up to a guy who plays 1b for them. Their total salary has bounced between $90 and $98 million the past few years. Simply signing that guy is a commitment to instantly go beyond $110. Adding Buehrle would push that to $125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) I can tell you one thing that isn't happening with the Cardinals this year. They're not taking on salary. They have something of a large possible commitment coming up to a guy who plays 1b for them. Their total salary has bounced between $90 and $98 million the past few years. Simply signing that guy is a commitment to instantly go beyond $110. Adding Buehrle would push that to $125. Just my hopeful dream to get something decent in return for Buehrle's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Just my hopeful dream to get something decent in return for Buehrle's contract. I'm happy to get Mark Buehrle in exchange for Mark Buehrle's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 01:52 PM) Just my hopeful dream to get something decent in return for Buehrle's contract. Rasmus is a little more than decent. lol. I'd never say a bad thing about KW again if he pulled that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Boy if KW somehow got Rasmus, I will be streaking on Michigan Avenue. Love that kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Could A Quentin/Rasmus swap possibly work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:59 PM) Could A Quentin/Rasmus swap possibly work? In terms of raw value that's a loser for the Cardinals right now...Quentin's value has just dropped so much between injuries and disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 03:59 PM) Could A Quentin/Rasmus swap possibly work? Maybe if the Sox threw in Pena and Teahen. I'm sure LaRussa wouldn't mind Lillibridge either. He can play a lot of positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 03:59 PM) Could A Quentin/Rasmus swap possibly work? Have we entered the baseball twilight zone? In the last week the Marlins are shopping Mike Stanton, Danks and CQ are enough to land Votto and CQ alone would land Rasmus? Edited October 15, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Have we entered the baseball twilight zone? In the last week the Marlins are shopping Mike Stanton, Danks and CQ are enough to land Votto and the CQ alone would land Rasmus? Also, Ramon Castro for Adrian Gonzalez (somehow, this always works on MLB the Show) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) In terms of raw value that's a loser for the Cardinals right now...Quentin's value has just dropped so much between injuries and disappointment. Haha, sorry - I didn't mean a straight-up deal. I meant to say Quentin+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) Haha, sorry - I didn't mean a straight-up deal. I meant to say Quentin+. Can't we just sign Cliff Lee for 2-3 years? Man, that would sure solve every problem with these trade ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) I can tell you one thing that isn't happening with the Cardinals this year. They're not taking on salary. They have something of a large possible commitment coming up to a guy who plays 1b for them. Their total salary has bounced between $90 and $98 million the past few years. Simply signing that guy is a commitment to instantly go beyond $110. Adding Buehrle would push that to $125. Then let's get Albert Pujols. Makes about as much sense as the article on Rsmus and us trading Danks and 2 good prospects for the guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 06:01 PM) Then let's get Albert Pujols. Makes about as much sense as the article on Rsmus and us trading Danks and 2 good prospects for the guy I could see a Danks/Rasmus matchup actually starting to make some sense for both sides. Clear out a clubhouse trouble, get a guy who is only in his first arb year so doesn't kill the bank, White Sox get a 23 year old LH bat who can at least contribute defensively in the OF. Infante they probably would really try to hold onto because they need the reliever...but KW has shown no hesitation about dealing guys from A-ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) In terms of raw value that's a loser for the Cardinals right now...Quentin's value has just dropped so much between injuries and disappointment. Only those that thought he was 2008 Quentin should be disappointed. Some Sox fans think of him as some MVP level savior that needs anti-psychotic meds or something. The guy is young, relatively cheap and good for 25 HRs/85RBIs/800+OPS a year. I'd like to see what we can get for him in a deal, but if he stays put, DH him and his value and production should be excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 How can that guy suggest Rasmus for Stanton? That's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) Then let's get Albert Pujols. Makes about as much sense as the article on Rsmus and us trading Danks and 2 good prospects for the guy Danks make a ton of sense for the Cards and Rasmus for the Sox. John Danks is one of the very few trade chips the Sox have to get a quality, impact return for 2011 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Don't trade Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (since56 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 06:30 PM) Don't trade Danks for anything less than a sick haul. Fixed. I like Danks, but he's not untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 05:47 PM) How can that guy suggest Rasmus for Stanton? That's insane. He also doesn't know the difference between there and their. So there's a possible reason why he thinks that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 06:34 PM) Fixed. I like Danks, but he's not untouchable. I would definitely do Danks for Rasmus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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