Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 07:09 AM) Is it possible that this is the team outside of some minor tinkering on the bottom of the roster? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) Well, they can't be thinking of Montero as a long-term C with Zunino in the wings. They aren't going to want him catching more than 60 or so games anyway. Morales isn't a long term player either. He's almost certainly a 1 year rental. He's a 2nd year arb player this year, and probably unlikely to have arbitration offered again next fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) Morales isn't a long term player either. He's almost certainly a 1 year rental. He's a 2nd year arb player this year, and probably unlikely to have arbitration offered again next fall. Morales' arb status isn't correct on b-r.com, he's entering his third arb year like Vargas. It will be interesting to see if Morales plays well enough to make the Mariners comfortable in giving him a qualifying offer at the end of the year, in hopes he'll turn it down so they'll get an extra draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Interesting or maybe not so interesting tidbit: Jeff Keppinger is listed as a primary backup at 3B, SS, 2B at the White Sox depth chart on the official website. Brent Morel is listed as the starting 3B. Edited December 21, 2012 by justBLAZE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 white sox are about the future and not about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) white sox are about the future and not about now. How about both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) white sox are about the future and not about now. That explains how we end up with the worst farm system in the league every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) white sox are about the future and not about now. I think it's tough to do both. TB seems to have figured it out, keeping a pretty low payroll, but consistently bringing in young talent to replace veteran players. The White Sox farm system has given the major league team Sale, Beckham, and then guys from other systems in trades...Flowers, Quintana, De Aza, Danks, Floyd(if you consider him a Sox prospect), but they do need more of their home grown talent to be productive for their if for no other reason than to balance the payroll. I say it's tough to do both because the White Sox have had to trade what young talent they've had to try to compete at the major league level, and their payroll, while pretty respectable, has been sort of locked of late because of lot of money is going to a 1/3 of the payroll overall. When there's more flexibility, both in payroll and a better minor league system, the Sox will find it easier to do both, for now, they seem to be a slighly above average MLB team with a very bad minor league system - to me, that's not doing either well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just posted in the Diamond Club thread that Liriano is off the market with a 2 YR deal with Pittsburg for 14 million. Link: http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/184425441.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette No contract discussions with Konerko for the upcoming year, and he doesn't expect it. His last 2 negotiations both done after the season. CWS konerko told us that he hadn't spoken to Ventura about DH'ing more this year but whatever the team wants, he'll be ready for it CWS 2012 was the most prepared white sox team he's been on since being in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette No contract discussions with Konerko for the upcoming year, and he doesn't expect it. His last 2 negotiations both done after the season. CWS konerko told us that he hadn't spoken to Ventura about DH'ing more this year but whatever the team wants, he'll be ready for it CWS 2012 was the most prepared white sox team he's been on since being in Chicago. You don't say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) You don't say? I wonder why the 2012 Marlins sucked so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 12:49 PM) I wonder why the 2012 Marlins sucked so much. 2005! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 01:04 PM) 2005! They sucked because of 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 03:12 PM) They sucked because of 2005? ....kinda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) They sucked because of 2005? Pretty much. 2005 over-inflated Ozzie's already gigantic ego to epic proportions, leading to his teams' repeated underachievement over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) Pretty much. 2005 over-inflated Ozzie's already gigantic ego to epic proportions, leading to his teams' repeated underachievement over the years. Was being sarcastic back, but yeah, I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) Pretty much. 2005 over-inflated Ozzie's already gigantic ego to epic proportions, leading to his teams' repeated underachievement over the years. Disagree. The lack of controls on Ozzie & the massively long leash he had here led to Ozzie's head blowing up. I mean, just the Oney s*** alone would have been enough to get any other manager canned. IIRC Jerry extended Ozzie's contract right around the time when his little bastard son squealed on Bobby Jenks in public & brought hush-hush Sox clubhouse matters to the forefront of the baseball world. Jerry's extreme loyalty is one of the reasons so many of his employees love him, but the downside is it occasionally can lead to an Ozzie situation, a Dave Wilder situation, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I see the White Sox brought Andy Gonzalez back. This could be the big move we were waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) Was being sarcastic back, but yeah, I agree As was I, but yeah, I stand by what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Probably not in the sense that they're looking to move him, but I could guess the 3 main guys who they won't trade right now are Sale, Peavy, and Keppinger, and two of those are because they have contracts hot off the press. I'd have a hard time seeing any team making an offer that would make the Sox consider giving up Nate Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Jose Lopez getting close to a deal with Tokyo Yomiuri Giants. Lopez, 29, hit .246 w/ #chisox, #indians last yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Strangest But Truest Player of the Year Has there ever been a stranger but truer baseball player than Adam Dunn? I mean, seriously. At least he didn't hit .159 again. But he still did all this: [+] EnlargeAdam Dunn Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesAdam Dunn leads the majors in strikeouts (598) over the past three seasons. • In 328 of Dunn's always-entertaining trips to home plate, the ball never got around to leaving the batter's box (222 strikeouts, 105 walks, 1 HBP)! So who else has ever had that many trips like that in one season? Nobody, obviously. • Dunn also worked only 110 hits into his repertoire (amid those 222 strikeouts). That means he's now had back-to-back seasons with at least twice as many punchouts as hits. So how many other position players have done that two years in a row? You guessed it. Zero. • In yet another bid for swing-and-miss history, the Big Donkey had more strikeouts (156) than the pitcher who was leading the big leagues in strikeouts, Justin Verlander (152), as late as Aug. 5! Alas, a late-season oblique strain got in the way of that quest. … • But not this one: Dunn struck out at least once in every one of his first 32 games of the season, barely squeaking by the old record -- of 14! • In yet more unprecedented Human Air Conditioner developments, Dunn became the first man in history to whiff 134 times before the All-Star break. Would you believe Albert Pujols has also whiffed 134 times -- in the past two seasons combined? • In non-strikeout news, this man hit his 30th homer this year before he hit his 30th single! And kids, all we can say is, don't try that at home. • But finally, here's this important question: Who had the better year -- Dunn or his "hot-hitting" teammate, Alex Rios? Don't answer too hastily now. Dunn hit .204 in 649 trips to the plate. Rios hit .304 in 640 trips. But Dunn still reached base more times (216) than Rios did (214)? You can look it up! Fun times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Later in that same article they mentioned a game where Aaron Cook pitched 6 full innings without a single walk or strikeout--and Adam Dunn was in the lineup. It also mentioned that Houston had a better record than Texas after Labor Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 27, 2012 -> 06:51 AM) Later in that same article they mentioned a game where Aaron Cook pitched 6 full innings without a single walk or strikeout--and Adam Dunn was in the lineup. Things like this are what makes baseball great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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