Marty34 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Rangers could use an OF bat with Cruz situation up in the air. A Rios-for-Olt deal might make sense with Keppinger moving to a corner OF spot for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Rangers could use an OF bat with Cruz situation up in the air. A Rios-for-Olt deal might make sense with Keppinger moving to a corner OF spot for the time being. I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. With Rios being so inconsistent and expensive though, I just have a hard time thinking he'd command a premium prospect. Maybe if he starts hot and we're willing to send along some cash... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I like the idea, but I am not sure if Rios is worth nearly that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 09:48 PM) I like the idea, but I am not sure if Rios is worth nearly that much. He's not. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 08:48 PM) I like the idea, but I am not sure if Rios is worth nearly that much. I hear ya. Olt's 24 which is getting old for a prospect and the Rangers might be in a tough spot for a middle-of-the-order OF bat soon. That said, the Sox would have to eat some of Rios' contract to make a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) He's not. Not even close. He might be worth it to the Rangers though. I'm not quite sure how good Olt can be given he's already 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'm down and of course Rios's value would be higher to the Rangers than in general. It's worth asking if they'd rather snatch up a Michael Bourn instead...but they don't get any of the lost power of Cruz back in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 07:01 PM) He might be worth it to the Rangers though. I'm not quite sure how good Olt can be given he's already 24. 24? Who will we platoon him with though?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Rangers could use an OF bat with Cruz situation up in the air. A Rios-for-Olt deal might make sense with Keppinger moving to a corner OF spot for the time being. Makes sense, but I think the Rangers can get more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 08:48 PM) I like the idea, but I am not sure if Rios is worth nearly that much. I'm not sure Olt is worth that much. Actually I am sure but I'm not in Hahn's seat so who gives a s*** about my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Olt has to be worth more than Viciedo, right? Dayan is so old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 No to trading Rios or Viciedo. But, Scot Rolen might be an option at 3B and use Keppinger as the super utilityman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) He's not. Not even close. Not in the same solar system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 11:54 PM) No to trading Rios or Viciedo. But, Scot Rolen might be an option at 3B and use Keppinger as the super utilityman Scott Rolen is terrible. Over his last 599 PAs, he's put up .244/.301/.397/.698. Rios for Olt is kind of a cool idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 12:54 AM) No to trading Rios or Viciedo. But, Scot Rolen might be an option at 3B and use Keppinger as the super utilityman Rolen may be done; honestly. Ben Zobrist would ideally fit their need the most, but who knows what he'd cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 08:59 PM) I hear ya. Olt's 24 which is getting old for a prospect and the Rangers might be in a tough spot for a middle-of-the-order OF bat soon. That said, the Sox would have to eat some of Rios' contract to make a deal. Harper and Trout have f***ed up reality for baseball fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:32 AM) Harper and Trout have f***ed up reality for baseball fans. If Courtney Hawkins doesnt show something this season in the majors, we should probably look into trading him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:39 AM) If Courtney Hawkins doesnt show something this season in the majors, we should probably look into trading him No one will want him anyway at that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:20 AM) Rolen may be done; honestly. Ben Zobrist would ideally fit their need the most, but who knows what he'd cost. I actually think Zobrist would cost more than Olt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:39 AM) If Courtney Hawkins doesnt show something this season in the majors, we should probably look into trading him This in meant as a joke but in actuality it is not necessarily a bad idea to trade a prospect the world is high on 2-3 years before he would be expected to do anything. Hawkins is actually the type of prospect other teams will want IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:32 AM) Harper and Trout have f***ed up reality for baseball fans. I'd say it's the entire TB Rays organization. I say, as a fan, don't even think about trying to emulate their success. It doesn't happen, and it is probably even more of a pipedream than trying to be the Yankees/Dodgers/etc. and run out a $200M payroll every season. Most minor league talent just doesn't pan out like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) This in meant as a joke but in actuality it is not necessarily a bad idea to trade a prospect the world is high on 2-3 years before he would be expected to do anything. Hawkins is actually the type of prospect other teams will want IMO. Less than a year after he is drafted, when your minor league system is considered 28th best? Yes, that is a terrible idea. Of course other teams are going to want him, he is a highly regarded prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 24? Who will we platoon him with though?! I trust (hope) you're joking! If the Sox made that trade, Olt would be the best 3B in the organization BY FAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 08:52 AM) I trust (hope) you're joking! If the Sox made that trade, Olt would be the best 3B in the organization BY FAR! What are you basing that on.........his AA stats? He could be but he has a less than .500 OPS in the major leagues and he's older than Viciedo. According to your previous posts, acquiring him would not be the best option. I would trade Rios for Olt for sure. I would trade Rios for a bag of balls if the other team took his contract. But this is another case of posters loving other teams' prospects while hating on White Sox prospects who put up similar if not better numbers. Mike Olt pre-2012...ranked 42nd best prospect Brian Anderson pre-2005...ranked 37th best prospect Olt's success is far from guaranteed. Edited February 1, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Olt's WAR projection from ZiPS is higher than Rios' in 100-something less plate appearances. That's before we consider salary. It would be an amazing start for Hahn if he could pull that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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