harfman77 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:59 PM) Bro, he's not Grady Sizemore. Meanwhile... TUESDAY: A team that spoke to the Phillies about Brown informed ESPN's Jayson Stark that Philadelphia doesn't sound enthused about the idea of moving Brown and is looking for two to three young players in return (Twitter link) MONDAY: The Phillies are "actively shopping" Domonic Brown with an eye toward selling high on him in an effort to acquire controllable young pitching, reports Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (on Twitter). Dayan, Beck, Rienzo/Snodgress, and Hawkins? Could that be a thing? No. Just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:00 PM) I don't think you want that to be a thing. Take out Beck? More doable for Sox? Or is he that bad defensively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 My remarks were based upon the following scouting report: http://baseballprospectnation.com/2012/08/...-adam-eaton-of/ Does anyone disagree with this assessment, and why? I like the kid, but was hoping for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:39 PM) My remarks were based upon the following scouting report: http://baseballprospectnation.com/2012/08/...-adam-eaton-of/ Does anyone disagree with this assessment, and why? I like the kid, but was hoping for more. Considering I just started looking at scouting reports about him today, I've seen just about everything. He doesn't have a good arm. He has a great arm. He's fast. He is average speed but makes up for it with gridiness. He won't hit for any power, he could be a double digit homer guy. He's a great OF, he's below average defensively. He projects to be a 4th OF, he projects to be a leadoff man CF. Who knows until he actually is playing real games, but losing Hector Santiago isn't a huge price IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) I assume that the front office had the following set of priorities, among perhaps others, going into the off season: Fix the middle of the order, which was a disaster last season Find a high OBP lead off hitter Improve the defense, especially the outfield Add a potent LH middle of the order bat Find a catcher who can handle the staff and hit respectably Add a LH bullpen arm Abreu was a big step toward addressing the first priority Eaton is their attempt to satisfy the second item on that list Two down, and four to go, on my list. Edited December 10, 2013 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) Take out Beck? More doable for Sox? Or is he that bad defensively? I haven't seen him, but even with a .270/.325/.490 season, he was only worth like 1.6 WAR. UZR was like -15. He's really bad. Again, he can probably improve, but he was not good last year. He's got an incredibly high ceiling, so in that sense he's worth a bit more just to gamble, but I'm not overly optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 So whats next for us?? Trading Beckham, De Aza, or Viciedo?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) I haven't seen him, but even with a .270/.325/.490 season, he was only worth like 1.6 WAR. UZR was like -15. He's really bad. Again, he can probably improve, but he was not good last year. He's got an incredibly high ceiling, so in that sense he's worth a bit more just to gamble, but I'm not overly optimistic. I wouldn't give up Viciedo for him when Viciedos stock is low and Browns is inflated. I think a Dunn trade is on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) I wouldn't give up Viciedo for him when Viciedos stock is low and Browns is inflated. I think a Dunn trade is on the horizon. I don't think Brown's value is going down though. If the Phillies are down on him, then I believe his value is low right now. He does have the potential to be a 30-40 homer guy, but he's also got potential to fall flat on his face and be barely anything more than a platoon player. Thus, I don't want to give up a ton for him, but I'd give up some. That is, I'd do so if there were room for him. This is also about the one instance where I'm OK with taking on a lot of Dunn's salary - if the Sox can find a significant upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:26 PM) I don't think Brown's value is going down though. If the Phillies are down on him, then I believe his value is low right now. He does have the potential to be a 30-40 homer guy, but he's also got potential to fall flat on his face and be barely anything more than a platoon player. Thus, I don't want to give up a ton for him, but I'd give up some. That is, I'd do so if there were room for him. This is also about the one instance where I'm OK with taking on a lot of Dunn's salary - if the Sox can find a significant upgrade. Sure, I would give up Dunn and eat salary, but I am not giving up Viciedo who will likely be a much better all around hitter over the next decade. People are too quick to get down on players after a down year and too quick to promote players after a banner year. The truth lays somewhere in the middle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 2h White Sox have added Avi Garcia, Jose Abreu and Adam Eaton. Not a bad haul. And sounds like more deals could be coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:59 PM) Bro, he's not Grady Sizemore. Meanwhile... TUESDAY: A team that spoke to the Phillies about Brown informed ESPN's Jayson Stark that Philadelphia doesn't sound enthused about the idea of moving Brown and is looking for two to three young players in return (Twitter link) MONDAY: The Phillies are "actively shopping" Domonic Brown with an eye toward selling high on him in an effort to acquire controllable young pitching, reports Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (on Twitter). Dayan, Beck, Rienzo/Snodgress, and Hawkins? Could that be a thing? Oh my lord, that is awful. Of those guys, I would give them Beck + Rienzo/Snodgress, hopefully Snodgress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We should trade DeAza and Rienzo to the Royals for Wade Davis. Coop would fix him. Royals are ghey. That would really hurt them but they might do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:10 AM) We should trade DeAza and Rienzo to the Royals for Wade Davis. Coop would fix him. Royals are ghey. That would really hurt them but they might do it. I'd rather see us trade De Aza, Beckham, Petricka, and Rienzo to the Orioles for Matt Weiters. Edited December 11, 2013 by Chilihead90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:24 PM) I'd rather see us trade De Aza, Beckham, Petricka, and Rienzo to the Orioles for Matt Weiters. Jesus, why give up so much? No need to include the pitching prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sluggers who are butchers in the field are not a priority. Don't need Dominic Brown Plus he's basically had 1 good months: otherwise he's Viciedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 55m Are White Sox done dealing at Winter Meetings? Rick Hahn: "You never know. How about that? It’s not a no." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 10:53 PM) I feel all the Juan Uribe rumors are fake and planted. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (dayan024 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 09:40 AM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 55m Are White Sox done dealing at Winter Meetings? Rick Hahn: "You never know. How about that? It’s not a no." Good. Get a third basemen or catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayan024 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 @BerniePleskoff Any more moves on the herizon for the whitesox? Bernie Pleskoff @BerniePleskoff 2m @bWalk01 As of yesterday, they were talking about having too many outfielders now. I look for something with De Aza or Viciedo. Mets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 23m One GM says he was told in talks that Shin-Soo Choo would cost $140 million over 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 10:16 AM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 23m One GM says he was told in talks that Shin-Soo Choo would cost $140 million over 7 years. He's about out of teams that would even consider going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Focus now has to be finding a young cost controlled catcher and then maybe, if you are able to do that and feel good, you think about picking up a piece, like Headley, at 3B who you don't have a problem giving some money too (as you have nice cost controlled pieces at other spots on the diamond). I do expect one day we'll see Buehrle back on the southside (clearly with another team picking up substantial cash). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 2m David Price Wouldn't Sign Extension With Mariners http://dlvr.it/4V2Mnz #mlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I think we make another move today, possibly two more this week, depending on if everything aligns properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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