RockRaines Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Single A prospect, Pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:21 PM) if there's any way to get Daniel Murphy you do it. De Aza and Flowers for Murphy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:51 PM) Single A prospect, Pitcher I've seen you post this more than once. Is this more than hope/speculation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 11:13 PM) Why is this? He's just as good as these guys getting 2 year, 10 million dollar dealI'm wr Honestly fathom do you trust Hahn to get value for De Aza? I see us trading him for some low level pitcher with an ERA of 5 but has a "live arm". I hope I'm wrong on that but I would rather just keep him at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:52 PM) De Aza and Flowers for Murphy? every day of the week and twice on sunday. Murphy HITS. He's one of the most underrated players in the league IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:03 PM) Honestly fathom do you trust Hahn to get value for De Aza? I see us trading him for some low level pitcher with an ERA of 5 but has a "live arm". I hope I'm wrong on that but I would rather just keep him at that point. You are really bitter about this deal. Hahn has gotten good to great value in all of his trades so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:03 AM) Honestly fathom do you trust Hahn to get value for De Aza? I see us trading him for some low level pitcher with an ERA of 5 but has a "live arm". I hope I'm wrong on that but I would rather just keep him at that point. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:11 PM) You are really bitter about this deal. Hahn has gotten good to great value in all of his trades so far. Hahn has been doing some damn fine work if you ask me. Really nice change of pace from KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Giants need an outfielder. Do they have a catcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) I read yesterday the Mets are looking for a SS, some kinda trade involving Ramirez for Murphy could make sense. Just a thought. Edit: How about ADA and Gillespie for Murphey? Edited December 11, 2013 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:57 PM) I read yesterday the Mets are looking for a SS, some kinda trade involving Ramirez for Murphy could make sense. Just a thought. Edit: How about ADA and Gillespie for Murphey? Why would they want Gillaspie? Trading Ramirez for Murphy really doesn't make sense either. They have no need to spend a lot on a SS unless it's a significant upgrade due to the presence of Ruben Tejada, and the Sox don't have an adequate replacement for Ramirez at SS, unless you want to see Leury Garcia play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:30 PM) Why would they want Gillaspie? Trading Ramirez for Murphy really doesn't make sense either. They have no need to spend a lot on a SS unless it's a significant upgrade due to the presence of Ruben Tejada, and the Sox don't have an adequate replacement for Ramirez at SS, unless you want to see Leury Garcia play there. I don't advocate this for opening day 2014, but...Marcus Semien is clearly that player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:31 PM) I don't advocate this for opening day 2014, but...Marcus Semien is clearly that player I didn't see many of the games, but did he show sufficient range on any of the plays you saw of him at the end of the year? I know he's played a lot and prefers to play SS, but you have to be able to cover a ton of ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtrem Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) Giants need an outfielder. Do they have a catcher? From the looks of it, the back up Hector Sanchez looks pretty good. Young, switching hitting catcher whos blocked by Buster. Anyone know anything else about him? On the surface he looks like a solid add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:30 PM) Why would they want Gillaspie? Trading Ramirez for Murphy really doesn't make sense either. They have no need to spend a lot on a SS unless it's a significant upgrade due to the presence of Ruben Tejada, and the Sox don't have an adequate replacement for Ramirez at SS, unless you want to see Leury Garcia play there. As I said I read an article yesterday saying the mets could be in the market. I just now read an article written an hour ago stating they would go with Tejada so you are correct. As for Gillespie, bad idea there as I somehow forgot about David wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) I didn't see many of the games, but did he show sufficient range on any of the plays you saw of him at the end of the year? I know he's played a lot and prefers to play SS, but you have to be able to cover a ton of ground. I haven't seen any evaluators go out on a limb to defend his defense at SS, but I haven't seen anything overly critical either - most just refer to him as an average defender. I watched maybe 15-20 games of his on MiLB.tv and I actually thought he looked excellent at SS. Range is difficult to evaluate on TV, but I think he'll be sufficient as a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:37 PM) Giants need an outfielder. Do they have a catcher? They have Hector Sanchez, was mentioned by another poster. http://m.mlb.com/player/516949/hector-sanchez I'd take him for ADA. He wouldn't be my first choice but ADA's value is only so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 There's no way I'm taking Hector Sanchez. He was OK in the minors, but sometime during his jump over AA, the dude forgot how to take a walk, and his CS% is pretty weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm thinking he might be ok with regular playing time and he's only 24 so there's room to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If we gave the Giants ADA what would a reasonable return be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:51 PM) Single A prospect, Pitcher This one sounds like it could come true. To get ceiling out of DeAza you'll probably have to drop down to levels below AA, and when you're dropping down to the low minors, if you're the Sox, you almost have to take a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 A lot is riding on Eaton to hit at the top of the lineup. If he gets injured, struggles, etc, having De Aza around would certainly be a decent plan B. My bet is De Aza stays, Viciedo and maybe Beckham get dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 1. I like Daniel Murphy but 2B is probably our deepest position from an organizational depth perspective: Beckham, Semein, Garcia, Sanchez can all play that position. 2. I don't know why everyone wants to trade De Aza. I think putting him in LF would improve our defense, putting him in the two whole would improve the top of our lineup. Plus he can drive in runs. Unless it's a no brainer trade, I'm keeping De Aza and Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 QUOTE (striker @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 07:40 AM) 2. I don't know why everyone wants to trade De Aza. $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 QUOTE (striker @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 08:40 AM) 1. I like Daniel Murphy but 2B is probably our deepest position from an organizational depth perspective: Beckham, Semein, Garcia, Sanchez can all play that position. 2. I don't know why everyone wants to trade De Aza. I think putting him in LF would improve our defense, putting him in the two whole would improve the top of our lineup. Plus he can drive in runs. Unless it's a no brainer trade, I'm keeping De Aza and Viciedo. Where does Viciedo play if you're starting De Aza in LF? I'm not a big Dayan fan, but he has the potential to be a part of the future of this franchise. De Aza on the other hand isn't a part of the future because of his age and contract. Can't take away AB's from Viciedo at this point. Especially since this could/should be his make or break year with the tam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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