Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't want the White Sox to give up any picks this offseason regardless of where they choose. They aren't in a position to be giving away draft selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 02:27 AM) I don't want the White Sox to give up any picks this offseason regardless of where they choose. They aren't in a position to be giving away draft selections. you got a point and i wouldn't either for except for 1 player. Heyward. however i like the idea of players, including pitchers will not get that QO. then they will not cost a draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 No thanks. I'd rather spend on Cespedes or go get Cargo or Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 07:29 PM) Atleast go for Heyward if you're going to go for an NL bat, Upton is not that good Well, if we're strictly going after a bat, then Upton is much better than Heyward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 03:23 AM) No thanks. I'd rather spend on Cespedes or go get Cargo or Puig. i am remembering that Puig was put on waivers and immediately pull back. now for me, i am thinking that the dodgers may have had a trade in line. wasn't there a mention that puig was now going to split time b/c of his play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 09:40 PM) i am remembering that Puig was put on waivers and immediately pull back. now for me, i am thinking that the dodgers may have had a trade in line. wasn't there a mention that puig was now going to split time b/c of his play. I don't remember but he needs to be our big splash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 14, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) Well, if we're strictly going after a bat, then Upton is much better than Heyward. I'd take Heyward but I'm curious what the pr$ce difference will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 04:47 AM) I don't remember but he needs to be our big splash. then i was wrong in my recollection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Heyward will be way too expensive and not worth it. He's a great player but so much of his value comes from defense. If the Sox are going to spend what it takes to get Heyward, I'd rather have better hitters. They need offense and Heyward just doesn't provide enough of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The Sox cannot sacrifice any more draft picks. If they want more offense, they better trade for it. The only name that intrigues me that will most likely be available via trade this winter is Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The only guy I'd give up a draft pick for is Heyward. We'd also have to move LaRoche or release him and eat the money moving Melky and Garcia into left field/DH combo. Heyward would greatly improve the defense and is only 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 For $140 million, Heyward alone probably has us at the .500 mark...not worth it. Especially when you lose another draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) The only guy I'd give up a draft pick for is Heyward. We'd also have to move LaRoche or release him and eat the money moving Melky and Garcia into left field/DH combo. Heyward would greatly improve the defense and is only 26. I'd enjoy Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 If we get a top 10 protected pick, I would definitely give up a 2nd round pick for Jason Heyward. Eat LaRoche's money or trade him and have Melky/Avi split time at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 02:20 PM) I'd enjoy Gordon alex gordon may be a nice pickup. however if he has not been given a QO. that is my whole idea, to concentrate on players, age, talent and of course those who weren't given a QO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) alex gordon may be a nice pickup. however if he has not been given a QO. that is my whole idea, to concentrate on players, age, talent and of course those who weren't given a QO. He 100% will be given a QO. Unless his leg falls off over the next 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) He 100% will be given a QO. Unless his leg falls off over the next 2 months. ok, but as of right now, it will be a guess on who was given a QO. it will be a tough decision for the FO to decide on who is available via FO or not. except for a possible of a couple of fa's. this is a weak selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) ok, but as of right now, it will be a guess on who was given a QO. it will be a tough decision for the FO to decide on who is available via FO or not. except for a possible of a couple of fa's. this is a weak selections. I don't have any idea what your abbreviations say, but it's quite easy to say that Alex Gordon will receive a qualifying offer. Jayson Heyward will receive a qualifying offer. Justin Upton will receive a qualifying offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 07:45 AM) The Sox cannot sacrifice any more draft picks. If they want more offense, they better trade for it. The only name that intrigues me that will most likely be available via trade this winter is Puig. In order to get a good bat you're going to have to trade a good prospect, right? So what difference does it make whether they give up a draft pick vs a prospect already established in our system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 quote name='LDF' date='Aug 15, 2015 -> 03:20 PM' post='322218 ok, but as of right now, it will be a guess on who was given a QO. it will be a tough decision for the FO (sox front office) to decide on who is available via FO oops free agency FA or not. except for a possible of a couple of fa's. this is a weak selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) In order to get a good bat you're going to have to trade a good prospect, right? So what difference does it make whether they give up a draft pick vs a prospect already established in our system? while i am not taking sides, i am looking at the system when i am answering this post. the difference is a prospect that is developed is one that may make the team in a shorter period of time. a draft pick is one who will take at least 2 + yrs to develop properly, depending on the quality of the pick. now, the sox have been lucky and see a quick results in a couple of their picks, depending on Fulmer progression, but that is the pick were rather high in the first round. not all draft picks will be like that, unless again if it is another high pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 What are we thinking an Upton deal would be? 5/75? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) What are we thinking an Upton deal would be? 5/75? if you are asking in general to anyone, for me, i am not smart enuf to figure that out. that is why those who works in any FO has yrs of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Just a ballpark but probably 5-6 years, 20+ per year. You would have to look at comparable contracts for FA under 30 with his history of production, which are pretty scarce. These guys usually get extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 08:51 AM) What are we thinking an Upton deal would be? 5/75? He'll be 28 to start the year next year. I could see a 5-6 year deal. I'd go 5/90 on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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