OmarComing25 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I mean Steamer projects Lackey at 2.6 WAR next year, if he hits that it's not a bad signing at all. I thought the money would be more in the $12-13M per year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) I mean Steamer projects Lackey at 2.6 WAR next year, if he hits that it's not a bad signing at all. I thought the money would be more in the $12-13M per year though. Recalibrate all your free agent estimates up by 25%? The Price contract is consistent with that. The Happ contract is even more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) Recalibrate all your free agent estimates up by 25%? The Price contract is consistent with that. The Happ contract is even more than that. I guess I should have expected it given how low his ERA was this year, but I figured the risk of signing a 37 year old pitcher would suppress his price a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 My favorite John Lackey memory is when Carlos Quentin deposited two of his offerings into the outfield seats at the Cell in 2008 on Sunday Night Baseball. I was at that game with 3 Cub fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) I just hope that the Cubs keeping losing in the next few years when their core is young and cheap. They'll be f***ed when Lester is at the end of his deal, Arrieta is expensive, and all their young guys are older and more expensive.  So, John Lackey is their big FA SP acquisition?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) My favorite John Lackey memory is when Carlos Quentin deposited two of his offerings into the outfield seats at the Cell in 2008 on Sunday Night Baseball. I was at that game with 3 Cub fans. Mine is when we smacked him around in the '05 ALCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) So, John Lackey is their big FA SP acquisition?? Â As of December 4th, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 06:57 PM) As of December 4th, yes. Â Thanks for the news! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 3 years would've been bad but 2 years and what they paid is a decent deal for Lackey. Will wind up being a 3/4 guy there. I also think the Cubs are far from done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It's funny how Theo just keeps getting the old gang back together. Â Lackey may suddenly start pitching like an old man, but can't hate on the deal at all, especially with only a 2 year commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:55 PM) 3 years would've been bad but 2 years and what they paid is a decent deal for Lackey. Will wind up being a 3/4 guy there. I also think the Cubs are far from done. If the Cubs and Atlanta agree to the speculated Soler/Miller swap, the cubs rotation would be pretty solid on paper with Lackey as their #4. Â I hope the Dodgers up their offer for Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) If the Cubs and Atlanta agree to the speculated Soler/Miller swap, the cubs rotation would be pretty solid on paper with Lackey as their #4. Â I hope the Dodgers up their offer for Miller. Agreed. Â I don't want to see a guy like Miller, Carrasco, Salazar, etc go to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) Agreed. I don't want to see a guy like Miller, Carrasco, Salazar, etc go to the Cubs. For sure. Us Sox fans will never hear the end of it. Sadly though, the cubs have the young hitting talent to trade for young pitching talent. One bright spot is they cannot go too crazy in FA if they are serious about extending Arrieta sometime in the next year because he is gonna get PAID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) Well, he has one loss. Tim Duncan The ultimate, throw down loss was Nolan Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Cards now in on Samardzija  http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/card...samardzija.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:43 PM) Cards now in on Samardzija  http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/card...samardzija.html  Someone posted that a few hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Someone posted that a few hours ago. Â sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Better than owing Zach Duke two more years, I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Cubs with a Kenny Williams move. "I always wanted John Lackey on my team" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 A get a lot of you guys hate the Cubs, but Lackey was quite good last year. 3.3 WAR. Even if he regresses to a 2.5 WAR guy, that's still fair value for $16M a year and makes him a solid #3 starter for a lot of teams. Â The risk, IMO, is his healthy, not his skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) Agreed. I don't want to see a guy like Miller, Carrasco, Salazar, etc go to the Cubs. I'd hate to see them get Ross or Carrasco, but I think Miller is really overrated. Peripherals aren't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) If the Cubs and Atlanta agree to the speculated Soler/Miller swap, the cubs rotation would be pretty solid on paper with Lackey as their #4. Â I hope the Dodgers up their offer for Miller. Cubs aren't getting Miller for Soler. Soler had a .1 WAR last year. point one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I think they overachieved. I don't see this making them better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) This makes me happy as a Cubs hater Those homeruns will be flying out of Wrigley in the summer.......from both Lackey and Bryant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 05:10 PM) If they can sign Gordon and then swing a trade for a Shelby Miller I thinks thats one hell of an off season for them. thats where my head is at on all this, they can get pretty aggressive and move bryant to a corner and move schwarber and soler if they wanted and put Baez at 3b. While getting a stop gap in CF and waiting on Almora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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